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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX **Threadbans in OP**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Or in other words - A forward thinking progressive who wants sustainable automobiles that benifit the planet just spent $54 billion on a platform for trolls and racists to run amock on.. 😂

    Post something else completely off the rails please. Youre funny



  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭Psychedelic Hedgehog


    Sorry to hear it. Hope it works out for you as best it can.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,440 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    people don't like him because he is a prick. nothing more.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,558 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    Twitter bans Trump - the left say "it's a private company, they set the terms and conditions etc


    Musk buys Twitter sacks half the staff and talks about free speech - the left say "it's not fair, he's mean blah blah blah "



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,226 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Platforms come and platforms go. You're only as good as your last post and your last advertiser.

    Could we see Twitter collapse yet like a willy after sex?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Fnz


    "It's more a case of people wanting Elon to fail..."

    As we should.

    [Evidence]

    But put you faith in this anti-democratic, billionaire attention-seeker. "he wants to introduce equal speech for both sides"!? What a joke!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    No one is suggesting it should be illegal to be an arsehole who runs a company into the ground...



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,097 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Yeah but you hardly think Musk is enacting Dorsey era plans do you?

    This is all Musk, who has seen one too many Wall Street Meltdown movies where the staff get their swipe cards cancelled and their phone service turned off.

    Except, for a company that remains a going concern, that's an illegal approach to redundancy in pretty much all western Countries and so seven thousand people are gonna sue him and win.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,996 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I am a big space enthusiast and strong electric car proponent, Musk is still a twat (and only getting worse)

    He tried to get out of buying the platform, after deciding to buy it. If that isn't a giant red flag I don't know what is.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    They won't win. This is standard practice even in Ireland - I've experienced it myself, fairly ruthlessly but at least it was in person rather than email.

    Night before email goes dead. You are brought to a one to one meeting and told your job is gone, escorted out, your access cards taken. You are put on gardening leave for the duration of the minimum notice requirements under law, receive a salary for that period and then your redundancy.

    This is what will happen here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    That's a pretty big oversight for Musk and his entire legal team. How did something so obvious to even the most casual observer manage to fly completely over their heads?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    That's not true. The judge gave both parties a deadline to come to an agreement which they eventually did. People think the case went to the trial and Musk lost. Its a case of people believing what they want to believe.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,097 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Cos by making an impulsive autistic in the middle of a shitstorm, Chairman, CEO and Board, these things will happen.

    I mean who is actually left in a senior position there, COO or HR or whatever, that has any interest in supporting Musk in doing this right.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,440 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    and the agreement was that Musk would do what he promised to do. Not really a win for him is it if he goes to court to get out of a deal and then agrees to complete.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Just to put things in perspective:

    Tesla:

    Revenue 18.76bn, MArket Cap: 674bn

    Amazon:

    Revenue 469bn, Market Cap: 911bn

    Apple:

    Revenue 365bn, Market Cap: 2.21tn

    Meta:

    Revenue 85.96bn, Market Cap 235bn

    Space X:

    Revenue 2bn, Market Cap $127bn

    Musk's value is based on potential of the very innovative Tech companies he developed, not delivered results. Potential is huge, but risk is there. When Toyota gets moving on electric will the average person pay a premium for a Tesla? Will Space X prevail over the ULA backed by Lockheed Martin and Boeing?



  • Registered Users Posts: 83,114 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Just wait her out son she just went to get a pack of cigarettes. Back any minute now



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Smelly Marxists on twitter upset that another one of their tinpot narco dictators got the boot.

    If Musky was involved in that then he's gone up in my estimation



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    In Ireland, for a collective redundancy like this, the effected employees will be put "on notice" of their jobs being "at risk". Then the'll have a 30 day collective "consultation period" where they'll nominate representatives, and have a few meetings with HR about possible alternatives to redundancy, which everyone knows aren't feasible. At the end of that, the'll get their actual notice of redundancy, which will depend on how long they were with the company, their contract etc, which will almost certainly be served on gardening leave. I'm not sure if the company can force employees to work the consultation period on gardening leave, but I'm sure there's ways to do it - but it's very important for the company not to make it apparent that those people have actually lost their jobs at that point, so all the language from HR and managers will be about being "at risk", not "redundant". The company will also have to notify the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment in writing at least 30 days before any redundancy notices are issued.

    It's all theatrics, really.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭screamer


    No surprise. I’m sure that twitter like many other companies have been missing efficiencies that a new pair of eyes can see. AI is the future and anyone who is surprised that Elon with the background he has, cannot make twitter more efficient through AI and tech is frankly stupid. As he said himself, you don’t have to do something new you can take something that someone else already does and just do it better. Yes, there is the human element, but as the population of the planet grows, and tech improves, many jobs will become automated, so less jobs to go around. It’s inevitable.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,638 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Everything is a win for Musk, he can do no wrong.



  • Registered Users Posts: 83,114 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    If we’re trying to shame King by only assuming he takes private flights etc. let’s talk about Elon and his chief executive logic

    Musk apparently likes taking a 17 minute private jet flight in LA for a 10 minute drive. And this happens fairly regularly FWIU

    Any evidence of King champagne use or private jet extravagance? Most actual rich tend to be stingy. Musk is pretend rich on the back of his celebrity as an entrepreneur and peoples willingness to saddle him with debt.



  • Registered Users Posts: 83,114 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Davis Salmon Scumbag


    Nobody thinks the case went to trial.

    Everyone knows (including the Musk sycophants) that it didn't go to trial because Musk realised he hadn't a legal leg to stand on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,638 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Musks missing a trick not bringing in extra checks to cater to his diehards. $50 a month for a red "MuskFan" check, $100 a month for a gold "AntiWoke" check etc.

    There are some who will buy anything Musk puts a price on.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hmm, defender of free speech is he?

    That explains Musk’s dual personality. At home, he is an outspoken critic of the Biden administration and a self-proclaimed defender of free speech. With China, where the government holds greater power over the life or death of a private enterprise and the authorities don’t believe in free speech, Musk apparently perceives a need to ingratiate himself to his authoritarian hosts. On the centennial anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party last year, he tweeted that “the economic prosperity that China has achieved is truly amazing … I encourage people to visit and see for themselves.” At home, Musk has mocked Biden’s plan to aid the U.S. electric-vehicle industry, but he’s had nothing but praise for China’s support of new technologies. “My frank observation is that China spends a lot of resources and efforts applying the latest digital technologies in different industries, including the automobile industry, making China a global leader,” he said in a virtual appearance at a conference in the country last year.




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    Anyone notice a lack of bots recently? I was on thread posted by Biden yesterday, which for the first time, was near full of people who didn't like him. There was none of the usual fawning from the army of bots that we've become used to. If Twitter manages to get rid of the political warfare bots that are oh so common, then that's a step in the right direction.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Agree, those left will be looking for their next opportunity as the culture has been completely turned on it's head. If it's twitters best talent left behind headhunters will be licking their lips.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Also important to note that the reason they had to come to an agreement in the first place is solely because Musk was trying to pull out of the deal. And the reason they came to the exact agreement that was already in place was because as you say, Musk realised he hadn't a legal leg to stand on.

    The idea that Musk agreed to buy Twitter for 44bn and then everything after that went exactly to Musk's plan because he's a genius and can afford the best legal team money can buy... is utter fiction. He tried to get out of the deal, couldn't, and then had to complete the deal. There was no "agreement" to be made, there was only Musk being held to the original contract he signed.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,000 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Elon wants sustainable automobiles does he? Then why do he and tesla actively lobby against right to repair initiatives?

    There were rumors of 75% cuts about a month ago before he took over, Musk dismissed them as not going to happen and now they have happened, a consistent lying narcissist has lied once again and people are for some reason shocked and surprised



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