What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

Ahh the lovely town of Killarney

Fair play to the lad who stood up the little scumbag.

A fair question at the local authority meeting

Our politicians should feel proud, it took several decades to ruin England, we've done it in the space of a few months. The likes of O'Gorman & McEntee, have no idea of just how bad things are going to get.

I went to Balbriggan Market there on Sunday,haven't been at it in years but my elderly Dad needed new boots....Holy God,I seen about 4 other Irish people at it,you would swear you were in another country

Again I’m wondering, who’s “your own people” in that context? Is it your own people, or my own people? Because we wouldn’t be referring to the same groups of people.

And as for the idea that Europeans are the only group in the history of man who’ve been told that they’ve no right to fight for their own ethnic interests, who exactly is telling you anything like that? Granted it may be because we’re not in the same groups that I don’t have anyone telling me that sort of nonsense, but it sounds like something you’ve invented of your own volition.

They really haven’t. Like sure there’s been ups and downs, but for the most part the country has picked up where it left off after lockdowns and what not. The healthcare system, the property markets, the economy weren’t in particularly great shape in 2020, they’re not in any great shape two years later. Other than Sinn Fein upsetting the apple cart in 2020 GE, the “bull by the horns” parties came nowhere, and their support hasn’t improved since.

It’s only strange if you’re conflating citizenship with immigration. I wouldn’t, but because you do, it doesn’t seem strange to you to imagine that the Irish people can’t keep our bigotry to ourselves. The referendum you’re referring to was about citizenship, not immigration. The Government of the day certainly made no bones about playing on the fears of too many immigrants claiming Irish citizenship on the basis of promoting myths about pregnant immigrants putting pressure on the health services and all the rest of it, but that was a twisting of what the heads of the Maternity hospitals were telling Government - that they needed more resources, not just as a consequence of immigration, but as a consequence of the fact that healthcare in Ireland was under-resourced.

All that’s happened since that referendum is that asylum applications have increased exponentially -

Anyone can still attain Irish citizenship through a number of other legal avenues including, but not limited to the Immigrant Investor Programme, which is popular with wealthy Chinese investors -

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-1500-chinese-millionaires-granted-irish-residency-through-golden-visa-scheme-42086015.html

It’s not because we ‘voted the wrong way’ that there hasn’t been a need for a referendum on the issue again, it’s simply because for one thing, a referendum isn’t necessary if Government wanted to change it, and there were moves by Labour some time back to change it, but they came to nothing, same as while the Irish electorate are keen to give the current Government a good kick up the arse and all indications are that Sinn Fein are likely to do well, it’s definitely nothing to do with their immigration policies, which are favourable to increasing immigration -

https://brownpoliticalreview.org/2021/03/left-wing-prospects-a-sinn-fein-model/

In reality, the Irish people have a greater tendency to keep our bigotry to ourselves, covert, if you like, rather than the overt evidence you’re trying to present. That’s been the case long before the referendum on citizenship, which had little to do with immigration -

ATTITUDES IN IRELAND OVER TIME AND IN COMPARISON

In the first half of the 2000s attitudes to the impact of immigration on the economy, cultural life and quality of life in Ireland were increasingly positive. Attitudes became more negative in 2008 and continued to decline in 2010, but became more positive again in 2012 and 2014. Views on the impact of immigration on the economy closely followed the economic cycle. Attitudes to immigration were more favourable in Ireland than the average across ten Western European countries in the pre-recession period but between 2008 and 2014 Irish attitudes fell below this European average, though the gap is narrower in 2014 than in 2010.

Attitudes to some migrants are much more negative than others. While 58 per cent of Irish- born people report they would allow many or some immigrants from members of the same ethnic group as most Irish people to come to Ireland, the equivalent figures for Muslim and Roma migrants are 41 per cent and 25 per cent respectively. The international literature suggests there is a greater perception of cultural threat around Muslim immigration than to immigrants of the same ethnic group. Resistance to Roma migration reflects a widespread prejudice against this group across Europe (FRA, 2016). Support for Muslim and Roma immigration is lower in Ireland than the average for the ten Western European countries presented.

In terms of beliefs about race/ethnicity, just under half of adults born in Ireland believe some cultures to be superior to others, and 45 per cent that some races/ethnic groups were born harder working. A much lower proportion, 17 per cent, believes that some races/ethnic groups were born less intelligent. These values are somewhat above the EU10 average.

An over-inflated view of the size of the immigrant population can be an indicator of perceived threat from immigration. The figure for Ireland is relatively low in a cross-national context, suggesting that feelings of threat may not be as prevalent as elsewhere in Western Europe.

Contact with those from a different ethnic or racial group is similar in Ireland to other West European countries. Almost a quarter of the population has daily casual contact, while the majority has contact at least once a week (58 per cent). Most people (62 per cent) reported this contact as positive and 8 per cent reported it as negative.

https://www.esri.ie/system/files/publications/BKMNEXT350%20%281%29.pdf

(Research was conducted in 2014, published in 2018, but again I don’t imagine much has actually changed since then)

In reality, immigration as an issue just doesn’t get the Irish electorate excited enough to be an election issue one way or the other, which is why in spite of the fact that there are undeniably a minority of people in Irish society with negative attitudes towards immigrants, they’re very much in a minority, represented by absolute bottom of the barrel loopers who they’re unwilling to support even though they represent their views.

What’s either inaccurate or outdated about it when you yourself came out with this sort of nonsense only earlier this evening?

And anything but unwavering support for the destruction of your own people is; "racist", "far right" or "fascist". Europeans are the only group in history of man who've been told that they've no right to fight for their own ethnic interests.

Apologies Tom, ‘twas a different Tom I was thinking of who said the above earlier on this evening!

Nothing has changed since 2020 he says , you must be on a wind up

I didn’t say that though. @Fandymo made the point that things have changed a lot since 2020. I was making the point that they really haven’t -

They really haven’t. Like sure there’s been ups and downs, but for the most part the country has picked up where it left off after lockdowns and what not. The healthcare system, the property markets, the economy weren’t in particularly great shape in 2020, they’re not in any great shape two years later. Other than Sinn Fein upsetting the apple cart in 2020 GE, the “bull by the horns” parties came nowhere, and their support hasn’t improved since.

That’s not saying nothing has changed. It’s pointing out the obvious, that overall, things haven’t really changed. Fandymo didn’t mention anything specific, so I didn’t need to. I took his point to mean that things had changed so much that the various loopers who hadn’t come anywhere in the last General Election would do any better the next time round. They won’t, because things really haven’t changed that much.

Do you honestly believe that things have changed so much that an issue which was only a concern for 1% of the population, would suddenly become an election issue which would see a party like the National Party gain any credibility, let alone the idea that they would get within an asses roar of threatening the main political parties who aren’t just one-trick ponies? It’s why I made the point that people have greater concerns than just immigration, and why Sinn Fein upset the apple cart.

>Cllr Niall Botty O'Callaghan condemned the harassment of the young women and also condemned some of the online commentary.

>He says the housing of refugees and asylum seekers in hotels has damaged small businesses such as cafes and restaurants which rely on tourists and street trade.

That's them re elected

I suppose the wan in Portlaoise for the child porn and prostitution has an old PPS number?

What part of Ukraine are the lads from ?

Or maybe they are doctors and engineers from Syria.

And you know this from direct experience of 4chan and incelspheres?

Yep, the First Nations can tell you all about it....

Many TD’s are a lost cause they are too far removed from their constituents. Some really think they know better then the rest of us. Local Councillors can’t ignore and dismiss the electorate so easily

That the usual tactic, it was pathetically used after the tragic murder of Ashling Murphy. The slogan "Irish mother's educate your son's" got plastered all over social media until it was revealed that the perpetrator was actually a Slovak gypsy, then radio silence as his ethnicity didn't fit their narrative.