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MG 4

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Same here. But my confidence is quite low at this stage.

    Also, there's one more lesser issue reported with the SR - charging on 350 kW chargers peaks at 82 kW max, with battery heating turned on. It would be less without it. The brochure says 117 kW peak. 80ish is similar to Kona.

    This might get fixed with a SW update. But again, might, might not, it's a gamble.

    The LR on the other hand is overperforming vs specs - peaking at 140 kW vs 135 kW advertised.



  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭pandabat


    Thanks, wasn't aware of that one tbh and I had SR in mind. That said, I'd be likely home charging 99.5% of the time so not a biggy in the grand scheme of things but might affect others' impressions. As I say though, I'll be watching the forums. Much of the stuff is probably resolvable through software but we'll see



  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭usual_suspect


    One positive to add to the news on the MG4 to follow all the concerns over oil leaks and bulging underfloors: You can now buy roof bars on the MG Danish website (https://mgmotors.dk/tilbehoersshop/) - 60kg roof rating. I assume that means it's going through whatever certification is required before formally being signed off.

    The lack of roof load was a concern for myself as the boot is relatively compact (and was removing a lingering doubt on whether I should look at the MG5 instead...). Some enterprising early adopters in the UK have also spotted you can remove the plastic holder (by undoing two screws) in the boot containing the emergency tyre accessories, freeing up some extra space also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    and was leaving a lingering doubt on whether I should look at the MG5 instead...). Some enterprising early adopters in the UK 


    I actually think the MG5 has a nicer dash then the MG4 but the 4 is the better looker from the front alright maybe not the back do.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭baziled13


    Miles says report are not as widespread as on social media only 12 cases of oils leaks

    And UK had another delivery last week and maybe 2 more before Ireland so issues should be sorted. And if its a disaster like bz4x I'll wait for Atto 3.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭baziled13


    Happy owners with no issues



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭McGiver




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Where will I buy it from? Irish website doesn't have an eshop.

    There are 7 dedicated MG dealerships in Denmark plus an eshop with accessories online.

    None of that in Ireland.

    My concern is the lack of proper MG dealers here, they are all multibrand vendors here. I'd be wary of customer service provided especially when/if quality issues occur.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    According to the reviews I’ve seen, the 5 is not a new car , just a facelift? so ( unlike the 4 ) , you are buying a three year old car



  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭pandabat


    Some might prefer that given the MG4's teething issues 😉 It's funny, a few months ago I'd probably have been happy to go for a facelifted MG5 but, having seen the value of the MG4, it's no longer quite as appealing but obviously depends on what you need from a car.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Exactly. The MG5 is a proven reliable hard working car that is why lots of Taxi drivers have them. The new revamped one is even better.

    The MG4 is certainly great value when you look at its competition like the VW ID3 and the Hyundai Kona.

    It gas yet to be proven do. I hope it is a huge success for MG and reliable so that there will be a 2nd and 3rd genneration one and more.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    I’d only go for the top spec 4 , you need a 360 camera in my view



  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭pandabat


    I'd certainly like to have a rear view camera, front sensors, heated seats and heated steering wheel. The camera gives another view beyond mirrors/eyes and gives extra feeling of security when reversing but I didn't have one in my old Mazda 3 which had limited rear visibility and I lived with it for many years so imagine could probably do the same with the MG4. The heated seats/wheel I always thought were gimmicks but, once I had them, I find that they're very pleasurable on a cold, cold morning. I suppose you can mitigate that with cabin preheat on the MG4 though. I'm not gonna stump up for Exclusive/Trophy spec though - brings it too close to more mainstream brands and the value proposition is not as great.

    I think that I saw somewhere on UK forum that someone was looking at fitting done aftermarket camera kit. Wouldn't be 360 but just rear would suffice imo. I'll keep an eye out for it again.

    The MG5 would offer some more spec over the MG4 on base level spec but one thing reviewers keep saying is that it's not a driver's car and this is where the MG4 seems to excel (in EV terms anyway).



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,266 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    In terms of spec, a reversing camera is a must for convenience. Is it absolutely necessary on a small car? No, but definitely nice to have. You also need to factor in EVs often have a smaller rear window due to aerodynamics/sloping roof. Heated seats and steering wheel are a must in my opinion if you do a lot of cold weather driving. If you forget to preheat the car the seats and wheel are quick to heat up.

    You can have all the mod cons without spending €40k.

    I'm not one to get cold and almost didn't get heated seats on my last car, it's not a must have feature.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    What about an Ora Funky Cat Pro300?

    It has a reversing camera as standard and is the same size as a VW ID3

    Its also less than 40k for the top spec and less than 32k for the entry level spec.


    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,041 ✭✭✭Patser


    Ora Cat is also fwd, lesser power, slower, with a terrible boot and by the time you add delivery charges will be over €40k for top of range - so still €5/6k more.

    Although it does have quirkier, brighter interior and full glass roof



  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭pandabat


    Can't say that I'm keen on the "frog-face" look myself from the photos but might well look better in the flesh.



  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭usual_suspect


    I was mainly just highlighting that with MG themselves selling roof bars, that means roof-load certification is likely something coming to the MG4 across Europe. And that means being able to buy roof bars from a 3rd party company at some point in time. I.e. if the car is getting certified, you can be guaranteed that Thule/etc will be prepping/testing their bars for fitment.

    As for support, that's one of the main reasons I'm buying new so that even if it's not through an official MG dealer, at least I have some sort of comeback or company to bother, instead of buying a 2nd-hand EV and the previous owner washing their hands clean.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭zg3409


    I am sure an aftermarket reversing camera is possible. There are lots of specialists fitting them to all sorts of cars. Some sit over rear view mirror and are 50% mirror 50% tv screen, and the camera fits above registration plate on a bracket. Certainly if thousands more price was required an aftermarket professionally fitted camera will save you $$$.

    Preheating in EVs and even the general electric heating is much faster than the equivalent petrol or diesel engine based heaters so EVs heat up much faster than ICE. I do like a heated seat but the cost might be an issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Some sit over rear view mirror and are 50% mirror 50% tv screen,


    The MK IIII Kia Sportage had that. I know because the Dad had one. It was very small do so more of a gimic.

    The ones on a screen in the dash are much better and easier to use. Less strain on the eyes.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,041 ✭✭✭Patser


    UK owner just found out how bad that undertray bulge can get, especially if you go through a puddle


    Post in thread 'MG4 Undertray dip/bulge' https://www.mgevs.com/threads/mg4-undertray-dip-bulge.7796/post-132786


    At least he doesn't have to worry about the bulge anymore. No undertray, no bulge, problem sorted



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭McGiver


    I get that but my point was that Irish dealers are not in the same position (in my current opinion) as in the UK and Europe where there are dedicated MG dealerships. All what I'm sayin'🤗



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Wow. Is that the motor exposed there?


    Exposed to dirt and water and all sorts of things on the Irish roads 😵‍💫 What would happen to it when exposed to the elements?

    They're saying it's safe to drive and not an issue but I'm not sure it should be exposed for a longer period of time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭baziled13


    Should be sorted in china as MG UK are sending all issues that are reported, I'll be checking if they arrive in January 🤞



  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭baziled13


    Did anyone hear from dealers about any shipping dates from China?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,179 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm




  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭baziled13


    There has been a few issues that that the under cover of the car is bulging and in the photo the whole cover fell off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    We were about to pull the trigger on an MG4. Im seeing too many issues for my liking on brand new cars. Screams shoddy manufacturing to me. And if thats the case, whats going to go wrong in the next few years with them. I think these issues are going to effect resale value too. They are going to get a reputation like FIAT had I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,041 ✭✭✭Patser


    There seems to be 2 main issues reported - which for a new model on a new chassis seems understandable if they can be fixed quickly.

    The oil leak issue being reported seems to be a quick fix - it's only affecting about 20% of cars so far sold in UK (so far) and has been identified as a breather pipe issue and overfilling of a resevoir - so drivers are being told it's ok to keep going and new pipes will be fitted by end of month. I assume new production will have this solved on the line.

    The underfloor bulge also seems fixable at source - there's no explaination of what's caused it but any pictures of the bulge seems to me to be solvable either by extra bolts, a stronger plastic or redesign of the edge of the pan to attach over the spar that it bolts to. Again drivers are being told it's not critical or dangerous, and hopefullly will be solved in production soon.


    There will always be issues with any car produced, especially at launch, the test is always how quickly the manufacturer or dealers can solve it with least amount of disruption; and I'm happy enough to let the UK owners be the guinea pigs in this. At least I'll now exactly what to look for whenever my order is delivered; and if a more serious issue is discovered, then I can cancel



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  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭baziled13


    We have a Peugeot with adBlue and it's giving problem the whole time, EV have less thing to go wrong then old cars, reading on MG forum a small few teething issue nothing major like Toyota BZ4X, Kia and Hyundai arrived in Ireland they were a buget cars now the are selling luxury cars, MG are owned by SAIC motors so we'll backed.



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