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General Emulation Discussion

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I am trying to be rather lazy and swap my RPi3 for an RPi4, but the new Retropie image will not play nice with the Trisync monitor at all.

    Anyone out there know what sort of video settings I should be using?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭barryribs


    I seem to have to change the plug in settings based on each game, which is a bit of a pain. One will run perfect in Direct 3D hardware and the next one will have vertical lines on everything that isn't prerendered. Having said that, its not a big issue, considering where the emulation was until the last few years



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    It's still not working in everything. It was a major issue on ps1 as well so hopefully it gets fixed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Pcsx2 has done away with the Plugin system, so he sure you're on the latest version. A huge amount of work has been done on PS2 over the last 12 months, at this rate, it's in very good hands. Last I read was PCSX2 will be automatically applying fixes/configs for many games too, which will take a lot of the faffing about away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Stenzek of Duckstation fame has contributed a fair bit to PCSX2 of late too. There's been a recent port or PCSX2 to Xbox, and performance has seen a dramatic uplift




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭barryribs


    Yea I'm on 1.6.0, I think thats the latest. Not a big issue, to be honest delighted to have them at a stable frame rate!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    1.6.0 is two and a half years old at this stage, it's the latest stable release. You'll want the latest nightly release, which are far more developed.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I had no idea I could run that on my Xbox Series X!

    I've been looking for a way to play Battle Gear 3, this could be it



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Thinking of trying some Saturn emulation - something Ive never really tried in the past. Whats the best emulator at the minute for saturn that will give decent performance.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Mednafen still leads the way I believe. You'll likely want the GUI addon program for Mednafen too though. Retroarch with the Beetle Saturn core (which is based on the Mednafen code) isn't far behind and is probably the most accessible. I've recently completed Policenauts via RA/Beetle Saturn, it was perfect for me with that game.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Ill try mednafen - Im still struggling with Retroarch - I can never get it set up right and find myself messing around with it than actually getting any gaming in!!!!

    Usually I just use standalone emulators but Id really like a setup with a couple of terabytes that I can just setup once and just play.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Retroarch is phenomenal when used as a backend (I don't like using it for anything other than that), and honestly, I genuinely don't understand what the setup woes people have are. I grab the cores I want, the controller autoconfigures, set up the video output (vulkan), and run a game with the associated core...then if needed, F1 into the menu, core options, and tweak any options specific to that core. I don't bother with playlists or any of that, I use Launchbox for browsing, double click any game, and it'll tell Retroarch to open it. Unfortunately, it's become a bit of a dirty word in emulation circles these days. Shame, as a concept, it's fantastic for both users AND devs.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    I must try again. I have a dedicated Win 10 pc here that I was going to use. Maybe I just to spend more time setting it up at the start and try not to be impatient!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Yep, definitely. Don't be put off by the impression it's difficult to use it seriously isn't. Just get it set up, then forget about it and enjoy



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    I think Ive discovered where Im going wrong with RA.

    Its the initial setup and configuring the folders for roms.

    So I installed it, did the required updates, downloaded the cores I wanted but then Ive no roms showing up - I then browse to the folder and I can run the game. However I cant get it to just work flawlessly if you get me.

    Roms btw are all in one folder on a 1tb drive external drive in individual folders by system. I can tell RA where they are but the next time I want to run something I have to browse again to the folder and look for the rom I want to run-its a pain in the ****. Im missing a step somewhere like an auto scan for roms or something. I think this was always my issue and why I went back to standalone emulators.


    Tried it on my Shield and the same thing - RA is working but it wont auto discover the roms. Is it something Im doing wrong do you think? Could I have the roms in the wrong place?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    You can set the default 'home' directory, so that all you have to do is click "load content" and the browser will begin wherever you've set it. The setting is located at settings, directory, and file browser. So set that to the root of your external drive, save the settings, and from then on no more browsing.

    Again though, using a proper frontend really brings things to a better level. Launchbox in my case, it's quite streamlined and neat once set up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,093 ✭✭✭Doge


    L

    Don't get your hopes up for original hardware owners, there's a reason I posted this in general emulation discussion! 😉



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I'd put my snobbery aside to play Starfox in 60 FPS. Sounds like they are on the verge of have it perfect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    LAN streaming from my PC to an Nvidia Shield in the bedroom via GeForce Now on the PC and the Moonlight client on the Shield....wow, seriously impressed with this black magic witchcraft. There's virtually no lag when playing retro games via BigBox, and that's with initial testing using a Dual Shock 4 over bluetooth. I'll use a proper hardwired controller at a later stage, but I tested lag sensitive games like Super Mario Bros, Sonic the Hedgehog, Aladdin on the Snes, and so on....seriously impressed.

    With Moonlight on the Shield, you just pair it with your PC, and then on the PC, choose which apps that Moonlight can launch. I set mine to be able to launch Big Box for browsing the library with images/videos/metadata etc, choose the system choose the game, and boom, you're playing it. There's some slight artifacting that's visible, but the stream settings are tweakable so I'd be confident a nicer quality can be achieved.

    I seen it demo'd here, but had previously never heard of it - https://www.reddit.com/r/launchbox/comments/yoxtsq/showing_off_my_bigbox_setup_streaming_to_my/

    Obviously you can run retroarch on the Shield directly if you choose, but this opens up high powered systems that the Shield wouldn't be able for, with the addition of your PC game library to boot.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I installed XBSX2 on my Xbox Series X and it works a treat.

    I made an ISO of my copy of Outrun: Coast 2 Coast and it is gorgeous looking, upscaled to 1080p.

    A little glitchy on the menu but otherwise just fine, and at 60hz too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Following the release of the Atari 50 Collection, the developer of the Atari Jaguar emulator for it has been given the go ahead to release his emulator, BigPEmu. Seemingly it's got 100% compatability with the commercial Jag library too....fantastic news, it seems to have jumped to 1st place over much more seasoned Jag emulators (which were never really perfected anyway). The bad news is, he's seemingly battling cancer 😔

    Edit - Just tested it there, it's really impressive. Presentation and GUI are top notch too. Doom seems to run a little fast however, so I imagine that'll be addressed quick enough. New default Jag emulator without a doubt.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    It's meant to be amazing, Apparently the first emulator that works with everything.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Nice, it is one of those games I briefly had running on my AWSD cab and, by god, it looked and played amazing.

    That and Super Hexagon are made for an arcade cab.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Heard a lot about how much pcsx2 has improved in the last few months so downloaded the latest stable nightly build to try it out.

    It's a little bit easier to use but unfortunately every game I tried had the same issues the 1.6 build I had previously had. I swear I'm the only person that plays these weirdo games because all I keep hearing of is how the emulator is pretty much perfect now.

    It was interesting reading what they are doing on their site. They seem to be tackling the most poplar games and basically applying hacks and fixes to each specific game which means it's still quite high level and inaccurate. I suppose the issues I'm experiencing won't be fixed until the accuracy is improved but with the PS2 being such a weirdo console that might be a long way away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    It's so much better than before, plugin system gone, gui modernised, accuracy improved, per game config database set up with automatic fixes, efficiency improved, speed improved, automatic built in updater, and others.

    Its still a high level emulator though, so you're going to get per game fixes....youll be a LONG time waiting on an LLE for the PS2, and you'll likely never see an fpga core for it...so high level emulation will always be the approach with consoles this technically advanced. There's absolutely nothing inherently wrong with that, look at Dolphin and so on.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Well there's still plugins there at the back end, it's just that the one provided by the team by default is the only one you should be using.

    I understand that HLE is the only way to go with PS2 and appreciate and also fascinated by the work the team has put in. The issues is that with the esoteric nature of the PS2 hardware it means that the emulator needs to be tweaked specifically for nearly every game in the library and with a library as vast as the PS2 it becomes an issue since I don't think they will ever get it working nicely with the niche side of that machine which unfortunately for me is what I really love about the PS2 an the games I want to play.

    They did manage to fix the text in BOF Dragon Quarter's menu but the menu screen text is still an unreadable mess so there is progress. I tried Echo Night Beyond which just had horrendous slowdown although I need to check if that's in the actual game. The lighting effects weren't quite accurate but it looks like they are fixing them in a lot of games from their progress reports. It's definitely getting to a nice place and looks like Jak and Daxter might actually be getting to a good place as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Anyone saying it's perfect now is wrong, it's not perfect (is any piece of software ever truly considered perfect?). They'll get there though, the vast majority of (all?) PS2 games have been formally dumped, so it'll just take time to get to the level of something like Dolphin. Dev wise there's a resurgence of interest in PS2 though, so the future is looking bright for PS2 emulation/preservation....certainly a lot more so than it used to look maybe 3/4 years ago.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Yep they seem to be fixing stuff on a nightly basis.

    I might just grin and bear the issues with dragon Quarter and play it emulated. I've a PS2 but the framemeister doesn't deal well with PS2 and I've not got the money for a retrotink.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    A strange question for you in an emulation thread, but now that you've your own pad....would you not pick up a nice 21" CRT for these use cases? I picked up my 21" Trinitron for 30 quid or something, and being that size, its footprint is really fine when parked alongside some retro machines in a little display.



  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Technical YouTube vid about how to program an emulator for the 6502. Not for the feint hearted still worth a watch

    https://youtu.be/m6l3Elk7-Hg



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I might down the line. But at the moment I haven't got anything in the front room and only got tiles down and washing machine this week so there's a lot to do before I think about a crt!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    All things considered, some glitchy text within a random pcsx2 game might be fine for a bit longer so 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    I got a Fire Stick 4K Max for Xmas. Been using it for Netflix and streaming video etc.

    Now since the Stadia controller has been opened up, I've been looking at emulation on the firestick. So far I have PPSSPP setup and, for the most part, the games run full speed at 2X resolution. Now I'm looking at a more general solution such as RetroArch.

    I'm just wondering if anyone else has used the firestick for emulation. I'd be curious to know how far I can push it. I've seen videos with varying results. For example, Goldeneye on the N64 struggles (unsurprisingly), but then you can have Dreamcast games running flawlessly! I suppose it comes down to the emulator itself. I believe RetroArch has some configuration that can pick the best emulator on a per game basis. I also bought Launchbox during black friday, as it was discounted so I'm thinking of using the Android app as the frontend. It's just a matter of building a suitable ROM catalogue.

    Also, after reading the posts above, I have a good laptop form work (Dell Alienware X15, I think), which has an Intel i9 (12th gen? It was bought in Jan 2022 and they got the top spec CPU available) and Geforce RTX 3080, if memory serves. I'm sure I can use Geforce Now streaming and see if Moonlight can be installed on the Firestick, which would more than replace Stadia! 😉



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    The best emulator is usually the most accurate one which means performance is poorer. I'm sure there should be n64 emulators that would be much higher level that would run better with a loss in accuracy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    That BigPEmu really is some achievement. Just bursts onto the scene out of nowhere, practically nails Jaguar emulation, and then adds Jaguar CD support just for the fun of it. Granted the system is more a curio than anything else, but the author is one of those savants that just nails it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Yeah it's nuts. I mean so few people cared about Jaguar CD that there was literally no way to play it's library in emulation until this emulator comes along and out of the gate makes the entire library playable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    I just set it up there in my Launchbox installation....not a single issue, nothing, the entire library (of a whopping 19 games or so) just boot and play like it hasn't been some coding golden goose for the last ~20 years. Amazing stuff altogether.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I'm glad its so good. The Jaguar CD has the same CD drive as the CDi 400 which I had to replace to fix. I think my tutorial on how fix the 400 is still the only one online but I actually followed a jaguar CD repair tutorial to fix it. Any way, basically I doubt there's a single jaguar CD out there that has an original CD drive that still works so in a way there's was almost no way to play Jag CD games until this emulator.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Exactly, which gave the games a certain sense of mystique. Obviously the games are just standard Jag games just on cd (pretty sure there's no additional processing going on in the expansion unit unlike the Mega CD etc), but to see them alive again and running is a real milestone in emulation. I can only dof my hat to these wizards, and marvel at their skill.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,093 ✭✭✭Doge


    Discovered a DOSBOX alternative called PCEm from Linus of all people. It can emulate CPUs and soundcards etc... And seems to excel at win95/98 emulation.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    I see PCem blowing up in popularity lately, presumably because of this video. People seem to think it's a new emulator, but has in fact been out for a good while.

    Must give it a go, I've been setting up some vm's lately...i want classic installs of everything from Dos up to Windows 2000.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,093 ✭✭✭Doge


    Be sure to let us know how you get on with it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,295 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    From tinkering with PCem, its no replacement for DOSBOX. Only benefit is that PCem 'just works' while to get the most from DOSBOX (from my experiance) requires a lot of fiddling with the config(s)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,093 ✭✭✭Doge


    So I finally decided to give the free version of Launchbox a go as a friend who grew up with the SNES and n64 consoles wants to play them again and I wanted to make it as easy as possible to launch without having to go through about 6 screens of Retroarch just to launch a game.

    I have to say it's very slick, the emumovies plugin and scrapers are so easy to use, and it even downloads Retroarch for you!

    I thought I was going to have to manually install Retroarch and point it at the directory so this was a nice surprise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    It's a really nice frontend. With bigbox then, there's some fantastic community themes that just give the whole thing a near professional finish.

    I tend to stick to Launchbox tho, for speed and simplicity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Has anyone tried the recent Road Rash Improvement patches? - https://www.romhacking.net/community/2797/

    Good lord, talk about transformative. The frame rate is significantly improved, the input/handling is now sharp & responsive, and to top that, you can pair them up with CD-Audio tracks. There's a fantastic author called Dean Harris:

    ^^ His tracks go tremendously well with the game levels. His site is here - https://deanharriscomposer.com/videos/

    The game really feels now what it could have been, or should have been, like on the Mega CD. To emphasise though, the changes to the handling are beyond transformative, the game is so much more enjoyable now.

    Also compatible with original hardware too I believe. I spent the morning grabbing the audio and patching the entire series of games for the MD & Mega CD...absolutely delighted to have them, and look forward to playing them now too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    Just wondering if anyone successfully added a new section to retropie? I want to add a lightgun section for each console. For example, if i have SNES, i then want "SNES Lightgun" next to it. I don't want the Lightgun games to show inside the SNES section.

    Currently i have a custom section that I've created in the GUI, and added ROMs to it. This would be perfect except the ROMs still show in the original SNES section.

    I've followed a couple of guides online but neither have worked. So now I'm wondering is it even possible.


    Cheers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    The Dolphin Triforce builds are seeing some love again!

    I just tried F-Zero AX there, the real version, not the one on the GX disc that you can unlock...plays beautifully



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,323 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Only after seeing that now, great find! I see there's a Road Rash 2 improvement, will give that a go this evening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    All of them are done, 1 to 3 and the unique Mega CD version. They're brilliant, way better than original versions and work on real hardware too



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