Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

I watched the vid,I actually agree with a lot of what he's saying but you can't disassociate the crazy nonsense he's come out with previously and consistently with the fact that now he's hit on a big story that's actually true.

Also there's no doubt there has been blatantly underhanded tactics from Breaffy house and the council from the beginning.The whole community is in shock and seething at the same time,this guy and a rent a mob are not the right direction to go with this.Breaffy Community Council has already disassociated themselves from this "meeting"

I don't speak for the people of Breaffy and neither does this guy,that's for sure.If he's lived in Breaffy for 30 years,that's news to me.

I agree with you.

I don't expect everyone on the same side of an argument as me to have the same views on everything, that would be naive and dumb.It would also be a reflection of online discourse where everything is broken down into two sides,you're either with us or against us.That of course is nonsense and most people will be somewhere in the middle or slightly leaning one way or the other,yet its the fringe elements that make the most noise.

However,this guys views have been so extreme on stuff that I'm finding it hard to trust him or his motives on this one event that we share similar views on,I'm conflicted.

People who enter this country, having destroyed their passports and other ID, should be brought directly to a secure holding center until their true identity is established and then all should be deported immediately and, if they so wish, be allowed to apply for a visa through the legal, established channels. Should they refuse to co operate then they should be held in prison indefinitely, similar to being in contempt of court, it may help soften their cough. It would act as a deterrent for future would be illegals. Also all air lines flying into Ireland should be obliged to provide immigration with detailed list of all passengers including passport details etc. We are being taken advantage of big time and are the laughing stock of the EU and the rest of the world. Billions of our hard earned taxes is being wasted on welfare tourists who have the arrogance, audacity and impudence to come here and demand the best of everything without even a simple ID No doubt some are criminals, rapists etc. on the run and it's only when a serious crime is committed that the authorities will sit up and take note. It is obvious for some time now that our current minister for justice is for not fit for purpose and is completely out of her depth - just a populist token.

Totally agree.

All passengers should obliged to upload their passport when checking in.

Anybody who is uncooperative gets sent to live in tents in a secure area indefinately.

Over 3200 "international protection " refugees arrived here with no passport or ID (mostly straight into Dublin airport) this year alone.Thats about 1 in 4,let that sink in for a minute.The biggest number are Albanian followed by Georgia.

(If either of the ostriches on here are looking for a source on this its is Helen McEntee).

Passports are getting destroyed and disposed of between boarding in London and landing here,shrug of the shoulders,no questions asked and off you go into the system.

The Guards had cracked down on these chancers in 2020

What has changed? What government department ,senior civil or more likely Minister changed this policy? Who was responsible for this?

Why is this not being reported on?

Nobody can be in support of this absolute madness.

Ireland has done enough.. RE;

"I think a lot of people are in the position of supporting some sort of taking in of refugees,there's a legal and I'd argue moral obligation to do this".

We can't keep taking them in. This open to everyone in Ukrianie policy is wrong. It is being exploited, it is a burden on this country. Enough.

As predicted puckane won its little battle, proposal off the table now.

https://www.tipperarylive.ie/news/home/959695/puckaun-refugee-housing-proposal-off-the-table.html

Well said, I also think with the passage of time people will find their reasoning and thought processes around these issues will have altered significantly from when the reality of what's happening first became apparent. People disassociate from those who hold supposed "extremist" views because they are afraid of being labelled themselves. When and if things get bad enough you won't care about being associated with people with supposed "extreme" beliefs. If they're acting in best interests of community and not intending to cause harm to anyone, then they should be supported.

People have had enough.

Just for shìts n giggles, I looked up that protest, organised by a group calling themselves “Concerned Residents of Kill” -

Six people are continuing to protest outside the gates of the former Equestrian Centre in Kill this morning, where up to 350 Ukrainian refugees are to housed.

Th 'Concerned Residents of Kill' action group have said they will protest at 9.30am and 7.30pm each day.

Last night, up to 30 people gathered for a peaceful demonstration at the same place.

https://www.kfmradio.com/news/localnews/gardai-confirm-technical-examination-at-kill-equestrian-centre-complete/

It’s not entirely clear what they’re protesting about -

The 'Concerned Residents of Kill' group will hold a protest on Monday evening at 7.30pm, beside where the fire broke out.

Residents claim the number of refugees will increase the size of the town by 10% at a time when schools and doctors’ surgeries are already under pressure and the local garda station has been closed.

Mayor of Kildare Councillor Fintan Brett, who is supporting the residents, said the concerns were that the centre is unsuitable as a home and is without lighting, ventilation and possibly without a sewerage system.

Cllr. Brett told Kfm: “It’s a mile outside the village."

“When you have a group of people that are already traumatised, mostly women and children, and they’re asked to go live in a barn, I don’t think that’s going to help their mental health," he added.

Kildare County Council has also said that the site is not suitable, and it has been previously identified as a flood plain.

https://www.kfmradio.com/news/localnews/locals-to-protest-against-the-housing-of-refugees-at-kill-equestrian-centre-following-a-fire-at-the-site-on-sunday/

Back of a napkin calculations, it appears that 1% of the village residents are protesting about… something, claiming that the village population will increase by 10%, while the other 99% of the village residents don’t appear to be all that concerned at all, certainly not concerned enough to be bothered joining the 1% of ‘concerned residents’ of the village -

Kill (Irish: an Chill, meaning 'the church') is a village and parish in County Kildare, Ireland near the county's border with Dublin beside the N7. Its population was recorded as 3,348 people in the 2016 census.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill,_County_Kildare

Sounds to me like they’d welcome refugees joining their protest, if only to bump up the numbers 😂

Many of us have lived and worked abroad, are bi-/multi-lingual and have had sufficiently more international exposure than you.

What people object to, is seeing our taxes wasted, supporting an unfettered influx of asylum seekers, many of whom arrive with dubious backstories and in some cases, with recently destroyed documentation.

People are not NIMBYs for objecting to a double digit % point rise in the population of their local village or town, virtually overnight. Those of us who are economically active and with young families to support, understand implicitly that resources are finite and worry about the consequences of this errant policy.

It’s a shame you’re so concerned about the prevalence of NIMBYism. I suggest you buckle up ‘MaryAnne’ as this behavior will become a feature of daily life across the entire country.

Ah before my time so. I've never experienced that.

Are you suggesting a move back to that is it?