Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

No. I'm pretty confident in labeling things from sites like Info Wars, Natural News and Epoch Times as misinformation.

But ok, you're back to dismissing the studies I posted again. Cool.

There are no coherent conspiracies because the grifters the anti-vaxxers follow on twitter and other social media don't provide one.

If they provide one they run the risk of possibly contradicting themselves or stepping on the toes of specific beliefs. They'd also be in danger of making disprovable predictions or statements that get proved to be false. They might also just sound silly if they lay out a theory in clear terms

it's much easier and much more profitable for them to Just Ask Questions and make insinuations for their audience to fill in the blanks with their prefered narrative.

And here, since conspiracy theorists are only repeating what they see on twitter et al, that's all we get. Few conspiracy theorists seem able to actually formulate their own theories. The few who do I believe reach the same conclusions as the grifters and know better than to solidly outline things.

Aspirin is 200 times more dangerous than these vaccines. Have a headache? We take an aspirin.

Anti-vaxxers are simply that, anti-vaccine. A cemented personal belief and stance. Manifests itself in many ways, whether its someone claiming there are magnets inside the vaccines, someone else who relentlessly attacks the treatment by cherry-picking studies, others carrying on an act of "just asking questions" constantly, others who are "really concerned" about the kids, and so on

Vaccines aren't perfect, it's just a type of treatment, their benefits (greatly) outweigh any drawbacks. That doesn't compute with fanatics who must attack vaccines in some way, any way possible. They are unable to do otherwise and very little will ever change their beliefs.

All we can do is highlight their systematic behaviour and faulty thinking.

Anti-vaxxers, a considerable number of them, have unnecessarily died from Covid as a result of consuming false and misleading information about vaccines. A lot of that comes from social media.

I know two anti-vaxxers, they were both convinced by online garbage. Some of the propaganda and methods used to spread this disinfo are potent. I have driven past old people holding anti-vax placards on the side of the road. These are older, at risk, vulnerable people, who are refusing to get vaccinated against Covid because they have, very sadly, also bought into the anti-vax stuff.

It's dangerous disinformation, it's straight-up costing lives.

The inadvertent acknowledgement. And thanks.

Any evidence that death certs are being falsified?

We already know you dont care about 6 million deaths yet jump on the slightest hint of the mildest effect of vaccines on menstrual cycles.

And to state that most of the world had covid pre vaccines is absolute nonsense.

It was said that the death of one a tragedy, of one million a statistic. You have demonstrated that point and shown you are incapable of understanding what those deaths meant.

Your position is bereft of evidence, logic or empathy.

Got it, so it's not 6 million but even if it is, it doesn't matter.

But the tiny amount who died from vaccines are highly concerning.

It's the equivalent of dismissing the millions who have died in car accidents as a result of not wearing seat-belts as just a statistic, but then being really "distressed" over the tiny fraction who were killed because of seatbelts.

People die from vaccines, it's been repeated over and over in this thread ad nauseum. So there is no "at least". The issue is that people who are against vaccines regularly gaslight that vaccines are somehow perfectly safe, in order to attack an invented perfect safety record. Yes, it is that dumb.

People also die from drinking water, from taking aspirin. Maths is key.

6 millon deaths and we can get this whataboutery.

Apparently 6 million deaths is a non event to you. The issue is not that I dont care but even if your claim of impact on cycles is true - and the evidence you provided so far is highly dubious - but that if 6 million deaths is nothing to you then on any metric such an impact pales in comparison.

If 6 million deaths is nothing to you, why should you care if millions die from other diseases. Against the billions of global population that is still a non event.

Blinkered attitide indeed.

Your position has no internal logic or coherence to it.

6 million deaths and we get absolutely baseless claims about most of the world having covid pre vaccines which is entirely without foundation.

And the deaths were kept to 6 million only because of the global effort to contain it and to roll out vaccines.

Oh and millions of people do not die everyday. Either from preventable illnesses or otherwise. You are just plucking numbers from thin air at this stage. Holier than thou attitude? No thats just you throwing out hot air to obscure the holes in your argument.

The absolute moral and intellectual bankruptcy of your position is plain for all to see.

15 million is over 6 million.

Whether it is closer to lower or higher figure - the BBC article explains the reasons for the uncertainty - you havent even tried to substantiate why it is dangerous or misinformation.

You are just trotting out that line as an unthinking mantra / slogan now in your posts.