What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Trump won't be put forward as a candidate by the republican party, however trump will announce himself as the republican candidate. Major split in the republican party in the next 18 months

Much can happen in 2 years. The absolute best thing for the 2024 Potus race is if TFG announces next week. I actually expect he won't, and eventually endorse whoever gets the announcement on condition (quid pro quo of course) of getting a POTUS pardon when/if that candidate wins.

Get the popcorn ready as this is going to be epic.

Tear each other apart and split the vote.

Not a disastrous night for the Republicans, but a clear sign that Trumpesque / Trum-endorsed candidates are losing ground.

The Republican have the same issue they have always had - how to get rid of Trump without alienating his base. Now they can clearly see that his base/influence is shrinking.

But how to get Trump to quietly slip out of the spotlight, or even better from their perspective, to get him to endorse a candidate that also has mainstreap GOP support, is not something that will be easy to achieve. It isn't as if Trump has any great love for the GOP, or any interest in taking steps to maintain their popularity in his absence by doing what's best for the party.

It is a disastrous night really. They should have won far more. History of mid-terms, Bidens own approval ratings, inflation, gas prices.

Very poor performance and doesn't bode well for 2024. That it is now abundantly clear that Trump is not a winner for them, but that should have been obvious as far back as 2020. But the key problem remains exactly as it was.

How can then pivot away from Trump without splitting the party? That was the case back in 2020, and remains the case now. If the lie about election fraud wasn't enough. If the attempted coup on Jan 6th wasn't enough. Then how will this be enough?

It isn't, not for Trump or his supporters. So the GOP are in a real hole now. The best option would have been to win convincingly and De Santis to do relatively poorly. That the opposite happens means that Trump is now weakened, De Santis is more powerful, but Trump will now go away.

Thats very true, its almost certain that the next president will be a Democrat because as bad as they are the GOP are alot worse.

The Democrats could run a scarecrow in 2024.

There seems to be a dearth of talent in Global politics, utter cabbages running the US, UK and Ireland at the moment.

People get what they vote for. If people are going to continue to be duped by con artists like Trump, Johnson etc and laugh at serious politicians for being boring then that is what they are going to get.

The likes of Trump, Johnson, Truss etc should be nowhere near leadership levels in any properly functioning democracy, and if the outlier does manage to get through then the checks should be in place to limit the effects.

But in a democracy sometimes it all comes down to the lesser of two evils. Don't let the great perfect be the enemy of the good. Too many people were too quick to latch on the faults of HC and allowed such a terrible candidate as Trump to lie his way, and then even after what some could generously call taking a chance, have refused to accept the error and doubled down.

Lat night the US seems to have taken a further step to try to undo the damage and move back towards taking democracy seriously again.

Who was the last government leader in Ireland, the UK or the US that was the type of leader that you want to see again?

Biden has been much better than I thought he was going to be and the biggest regret I have is that if he hadn't lost his son to cancer, he could well have run in 2016 and we would never have had to experience what we have done and the absolute drop in standards within the Republican party as the turned towards people who spouted Trump like rhetoric.

Biden is showing his years, everyone does, so I don't think there's 6 more years in him but I cannot understand how anyone can look at initiatives to make healthcare more affordable, to prevent gas company profiteering, to cut student debt, to invest in infrastructure and industry and turn towards what Trump and those like him go on about.

I, like others, would enjoy watching Trump get his comeuppence, finally, but I do hope he sets fire to the GOP before this happens (if it does). They deserve it for how they succumbed to him over the last 6 years and particularly since Jan 6th. Watching the trust in the electoral process being set fire to as was done was extremely concerning.

When you see Donald Trump and Joe Biden as apparently the best that the GOP and Dems can produce, it does make you wonder about what the hell went wrong.

You need huge money to mount a Presidential campaign which restricts who can run to a large extent.

It seems to be a serious flaw of US politics, money talks.

Murdoch World takes the off ramp on Trump

You are 180 degrees out of whack with this take. US Corporations have the country to take for their continued existence as it is today.

In the US, the country took the hit with massive bailouts of banks after the corporation driven financial collapse in 09. During Covid, the country stepped in to once again provide financial support to industries such as the Airlines that claimed they would not be able to stay afloat without it. In many cases, they then took this money to initiate stock buy backs.

US Corporations are stifling meaningful progress in access to healthcare, more affordable education and climate change actions despite a desire of most in the country to see improvements in these areas.

In terms of Irish politicians, and I'm not saying they are perfect, but many other countries look at Irelands success from where it was, prior to mid-90's to where it went to, around the time of the crash, and again with the speed from which it recovered from that crash and these countries are envious of Irelands success.

Ireland has lots and lots and lots of room for improvement, but it also has a largely well educated and if not prosperous, then mostly adequate population and again is something that cannot be said for every country. Again, Irish politicians and there's been no shortage of chances and outright criminals within them, have contributed to Ireland becoming the country it is.

Man baby meltdown apparently

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1590341634709131265?s=20&t=YQWoh0cjbcEBxE2a6HyZTw