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Limerick or Belfast marathon.

  • 07-11-2022 4:23pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭


    Planning a marathon comeback next April.

    Torn between the mid west or the north east.

    what say you?

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.

    Limerick or Belfast marathon. 36 votes

    Limerick
    77%
    chubba1984rovers_runnerJay DJohn McClanebrowne_rob5SwashbucklerLastFridayNightkave2ger664bucketybuckMrMacPhistoMurph_Dflanna01HankSchraderRockymurfToffeeboyJakey RollingDannymole22Rightplace2016Burkie1203 28 votes
    Belfast
    22%
    T-Birdbrian_rbkReg'stoydemfadittakestwoodelazyYermandergrape86 8 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,595 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Limerick

    I really like Belfast as a city but haven’t been impressed by reports of the marathon the last year or two. Know Limerick less but it seems better organized which is very important.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭Unknownability


    Limerick

    Similar, I don't think I've ever heard a positive story from Belfast.

    Capped off with a friend waiting 3 hrs for their number last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,585 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Limerick

    I have never ran Limerick, but I ran Belfast last year so I voted Limerick.

    The organisation for Belfast was horrific.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Limerick

    A friend of mine who ran both says Limerick marathon is excellent plus the atmosphere it generates in the city is palpable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Cool. Looks like Limerick so.

    Cheers all.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭SeeMoreBut


    Limerick will post out your number



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Bgiraffe


    Just for a bit of balance, I did the Belfast marathon last year (2021) and am considering doing it again next April. The number pick up was a disaster last year, standing around on the side of a road in the cold and rain for about 3 hours, but it actually went smoothly other than that.

    I believe they have improved the number pick up situation also so hopefully that won't happen again. As a course, it's similar to Dublin I'd say, few long drags and what not but a fair test. A shuttle bus from the city centre out to Stormont for the start worked very well. Have never ran Limerick so can't compare but you could argue that Belfast has the more iconic points along the course; goes through all four parts of the city, goes by Windsor Park, Casement Park, through the city and Ormeau Park etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭echancrure


    Indeed. The nonsense of being forced to travel to an expo to pick up your number has to stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭Jakey Rolling


    Limerick

    Limerick good for spectators - the course loops in and out of the city centre so spectators don't have to move far to see you a few times.

    A couple of quiter sections support wise out to the industrial estate past UL, and an odd loop up over the motorway bridge and some residential streets. Last pull up around the GAA ground always find hard, but the pay off is a mostly downhill/flat last few km and the close up crowds over the bridge and in to the finish is fantatstic.

    As mentioned, great that they post out numbers. I'm an hour away so don't need to stay the night before and can do without having to make the trip twice.

    100412.2526@compuserve.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭Lambay island


    I have never done Belfast so cant really comment on it. I have read about expo and measurment issues in last couple of instances. I did Limerick this year and quite enjoyed route and as been said above great they send out number. Im not sure if this is of any relevence to yourself but Belfast is a qualifier for the likes of Boston etc in the GFA's. I'm not so sure on the situation with Limerick on that front.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭LastFridayNight


    Limerick

    Did Belfast. Never again. Absolute amateurs running it, unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭6run28


    Limerick

    Did anyone hear if the number pick system was better this year ? 2021 seems to have been the disaster year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭chabsey


    Which would be flatter?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Limerick

    You've probably a limited population of folks on here who have run both.

    I've run limerick and am from here so I know the route pretty well. It's not flat but it's certainly no Dingle marathon. As far as marathons go in Ireland it's certainly pb territory . Longford and Galway are probably flatter but they come with their own challenges.

    Limerick is very very well organised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭babacool


    Haven’t done either of those but know a few who have (beside boardsies). Fun fact, plenty would return to Belfast but non really to limerick.


    belfast

    neither of them complaint about the number pickup situation. Just seems to have a new issue every year. One year, it’s long. Next year some organisational hiccups, next year god knows what. Perhaps that’s what makes them go back - this excitement of not knowing what to expect 😁


    limerick

    usually it’s “it’s not flat but could be fast”. Main word here is “could”. Issues seem to be with sharp corners that kill your speed and rhythm and that the full field meets the half field and if you are unlucky you get stuck in traffic.


    but again, haven’t done either of them (and no intention to do so 😂).


    with regards to fast marathons in general, I believe a course with rolling hills can be faster than a flat course. But that depends on how you like to race (ie. I can’t cope with steady paces so need hills to break up the rhythm). Always something to remember when picking a race with PB as a goal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭6run28


    Limerick

    Limerick certainly looks much flatter than Dublin or Belfast on the route map elevation profile

    https://greatlimerickrun.com/limerick-marathon/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Sussex18


    Have run Limerick 3 times, I don't think encountering the Half Marathon is a major issue because both are well spread out at that stage. Remember the first year, my slowest, it was maybe a little bit dispiriting watching the 'halves' passing me, sprinting close to the finish when I was only jogging, having run twice their distance.


    Perhaps they can 'steal your thunder' a little bit, crossing the finish line at the same time, some of them. But I don't think there is much chance of getting delayed or held up by those doing the Half. Like I said it's both are well spread out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭babacool


    Think that depends on how fast/slow you run 😁. But as said can only go by what I heard as haven’t done it myself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Limerick

    well spread out unless you're a sub 3 marathoner and passing minutes before the half sets off!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Sussex18


    Ok, experience of contending to break 3 hours, I have none. I accept that it might be different for those who do. For someone in the 3:30-3:45 bracket like me, it made no difference.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Qwerty27


    Was Belfast as badly organsised this year as previous years or have they learned from experience?

    Looking at both of these as an option for next year, Belfast slightly ahead in my mind for soem unknown reason!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 dha28862


    Limerick

    Hello. I’m quite interested in this point; does anyone know if the Limerick marathon can be used as a GFA entry for other races, or how I could find out? I’ve emailed them but gotten no response, and can’t find any contact details for them online. Their Twitter account says it’s AAI certified, but not sure what that means.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    I did belfast 2019 and it was a holy show with the lead car messing up. Other than that I’d warn a 2 mile climb at about 24 miles. That aside no complaints at all. I did Cork this year and would sooner do belfast again if that’s anything to go by



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭babacool


    Aai certified usually means it’s officially measured (by a licensed person) and hence PBs and records are official. If not AAI certified records can still be broken but don’t think they will show up anywhere in the history books.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    Good luck to anyone doing either of these next weekend!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Qwerty27


    Singed up for Belfast on Sunday. Training over the Spring has been a bit of a slog in terms of the weather, a lot of cold, damp or dull mornings so hopefully things improve a little for the long weekend.


    Anyone done it before got any advice? Hopefully they've gotten over their orgainsational issues from previous years!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    I haven’t done Belfast before but plan to do it also this weekend. They seem to have moved to electronic registration which has speeded things up hopefully.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭T-Bird


    Belfast

    Yeah, I arrived yesterday and got my pack and stuff thinking I would have to wait hours. The numbering system was digital,

    It's probably an awful lot busier today. This will be my first marathon, so not going for a time just the whole experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 dha28862


    Limerick

    I’m doing Limerick tomorrow and so far it seems very well organised. I did a practice run around half the course a while ago and it seems like a good one, and weather looks good, so fingers crossed for a good day!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Good luck lads



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,448 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Good luck to all of you running today. Enjoy it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 dha28862


    Limerick

    Well I thought the Limerick marathon was excellent. Would love to hear about the Belfast one.

    The good points about Limerick:

    -start and finish in city centre, so very accessible; walking distance from loads of hotels and bus and train station. No need to trek out to the start line, or get a shuttle bus back in at the end. Plus it being a Sunday, the usual parking restrictions in the city centre didn’t apply.


    -the start (Pery Square) and finish (O’Connell St) both had a super atmosphere, both felt like a big city marathon.


    -loads of volunteers at all parts of the course, and loads of water and Lucozade available. Also loads of toilets at start and finish line, and around the course.


    -huge variety on the course itself; running down a very empty O’Connell Avenue and around the Hunt museum in the early morning was great fun; the bit around UL and the canal was very serene, felt like I was out for a relaxing Sunday run. Then back into the city centre and joined by thousands of people doing the half, so it turned into a very different type of race. Then some running on a motorway (!), random suburban housing estates, back through the Georgian bit of the city, then the million euro houses around the north side, and then a huge finish. Can’t say I’ve run a race like that before.


    -the route (starting and finishing in the city centre and running through it again at 20km and at 30km) is brilliant for spectators; and you didn’t have to do laps of the same bit of the city (I generally avoid races that involve laps, I find them soul destroying on long distances).


    -the medal was nice and chunky, loads of drinks and bananas at the end, and a free tshirt. They posted out the bib in good time and the race instructions were clear.


    -the atmosphere around the city was great; when I was walking to the start line, loads of random strangers were wishing me luck, and there were people standing outside their houses cheering and handing out sweets pretty much everywhere. Real sense of civic pride around the place, it made a real difference.


    So I’d definitely recommend it overall. Really well organised and supported, and a great, unique route.


    The only real potential downside is the flip side of it being varied! If you like big city marathons with cheering crowds, you might find the first half a bit quiet; and if you like a more challenging cross-country vibe, meeting thousands of half marathon runners who are fresh on their legs mightn’t be ideal. I loved all that though, it meant the time passed really quickly cos it almost felt like I was running a series of different races rather one continuous one. Horses for courses I suppose!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,448 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Great review, am so glad you had a great day. That's all we want from these things really.

    You've sold it very well, may consider it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Qwerty27


    Quick summary from Belfast.


    No issues with race number collection, free parking, no queues Sat afternoon, expo was pretty small and in and out in no time.

    Bus out to the start in Stormont from city centre, plenty of transport and no queue for bag drop either.

    Start was a bit busy with so many relay runners who should have started back a little and caused a bit of traffic in first mile!

    Course was grand, good support in a lot of places, plenty of interesting “culture” on view at times!


    At about mile 18 there was a drag of a climb, Oldpark road which I thought would never end!

    Mile 24 was an uphill along the Ormeua Road before finally facing for home.


    Overall, I’d say about 3,000 full marathon runners and 10,000+ relay runners, which led to a bit of traffic at times but on other hand probably added to the atmosphere.


    Bottle of water and a dry cereal bar at the end was a bit of a letdown but wouldn’t be a big issue. T-shirt very plain but again not a biggy.


    Overall, I’d recommend it, seem to have learned their lessons in terms of organisation. No frills or anythign fancy but good support and people were friendly!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Ran Belfast this year. Overall I enjoyed it being only my second marathon. I was on the verge of switching to Limerick when I realised that the number had to be collected the day in Belfast however a running buddy of mine went to Belfast on the Fri and collected it for me. 👍🏾

    The day itself was fine. Interesting city and great to be reminded of all the place names that we used to hear on the 6 o clock news in the 80s. Organisation wise there were buses from city centre to Stormont and again from the finish line back to city centre. Very little waiting about. I had no issues with the relay runners.

    Crowds were fine. My only point of comparison is Dublin and Dublin wins on that point.

    Info was great and plenty of contact in the run up.

    Negative were lack of toilets and pacers not staring sequentially. 4:15 pacer started in front of 4hr pacer which screwed up my game plan in the early part of the race as I started to second guess myself.

    The cost of entry was £42 so buttons in comparison to Dublin. Limerick was what? €70? Tshirt was fine. Nothing to write home about but I've gotten worse.

    Both are equidistant to my house so hard to say. One of these days I might do Limerick and give a better comparison.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭T-Bird


    Belfast

    Ahh that clears that up, I couldn't find the 4:15 pacers but was confused when I saw them in the pictures afterwards..



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