The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

Jesus, ira men in high vis telling ya where to park. Scandalous.

Our league and championship here in longford must be riddled with ira men, not a traffic light or cop in sight, just ira men in high vi's, some of them armed with walkie talkies even. :)

These SF/IRA lads are everywhere, wearing all sorts of disguises, I presume ye have no traffic lights in Longford so ye'd be rightly fcuked on match days if it wasn't for these SF/IRA lads.

well then, taking money from a criminal is all ok then.

Eoin Broin thinks it is all fine and dandy. Now can we think for a moment what Sf would say if this was FG or the labour party or anyone else for the matter? Sf and its members sure do like their cash. money money money... where it comes from they don't care.

That is the impression that I get from the outside looking in anyway. It is as if ‘new SF’ the MLM brand at best go quiet or worse tacitly agree with ‘old SF’ the Gerry Adams brand.

I kind of feel sorry for the newer SF members whose focus is less on the ‘oh ah up the Ra’ Republicanism and are drawn to SF because of the idea of more egalitarian society etc.

But the overt Republicanism subsumes the former. As decent humanity slowly gets watered down all for.the glorification of ‘the struggle’.

You only have to have quick glance at the ‘An Phoblacht’ site to see how rooted in the past the core SF are.

Now I am not comparing SF to the Nazis. I don’t want a Sean Russell Fairview statue debate. Of which commemoration was Mary Lou’s first litmus test as the bright young SF hope - way back - by the way.

But I find if you look at an phoblacht now and again. It gives a good flavour of how the true SF thinks.

Hitler did it in plain site with Mein Kampf ‘My Struggle’ . There was also magazines such as Der Sturmer etc.

Now I am not saying SF has got racial undertones or anything of the sort. My point it is all there in plain site. Particularly the harking back to the past ‘the troubles’ and glorification of events relating to the provisionals.

If any ordinary decent people were considering voting or even joining SF -

I would say first have a look at an Phoblacht site - and cross check the names and events with other neutral publications. Find out the full facts, what were the individuals convicted of?

To use Republican lingo what was not ‘condemned nor apologised for’? Then if you still in good conscience vote SF or join SF, fair enough.

I am not sure did you deliberately miss the point of my post, it was that in NI and the border areas there is a different mindset and it’s roots are historical/political. Different atmosphere.

As for the Crossmaglen lack of traffic lights which you focused on, it was explained to me that the traffic lights were removed by ‘The Brits’ as they used as places for explosives. I am sure that is not the reason in Longford.

I mean even if you look at Donegal there is a culture of youngsters driving dangerously and regularly, even at higher rate than most counties in ROI. It is culture, a mindset of lawlessness.

I firmly believe that has been created in NI and the border areas because of decades of the troubles. Which leads to a disproportionate amount of crime per population.

We have already seen the Diesel smuggling case from Crossmaglen recently. Or How Dublin gangland criminals are attracted to SF. And furthermore how such gangland criminals have Republican contacts, and so on.

See this is part of what I mean it is second nature for you are your ilk to deflect away from the salient point (in this case mindset/culture) when it hits a nerve.

And then snigger to yourself behind the computer screen/phone. Patting yourself on the back of how you now feel you did your small part for ‘The Struggle’ even if it is only virtually. That too is (ironically in this case) part of the cultural SF mindset.

Which can’t be easy exactly? Supporting SF? Supporting Longford? Or living in Longford? Or is it combination of all three?

Because geographically Longford is isolated from the SF hotbeds, the border areas/NI - working class Dublin, and so on.

Plus I mean if a fella from Longford tried to finish his rousing Republican oratory with ‘Tiocfaidh ar la’ it wouldn’t end up like that.

It would be be ‘Tiocfaidh ar la, hay’. Which could cause other members of the Army Council into fits of laughter. But behind balaclavas this could have serious health implications- difficulty breathing and so on.

Thankfully David Cullinane has the Health portfolio eyed up, I am sure (of all people) he has contingencies thought of in such a scenario.

Weak response - I am disappointed (more of a rehash than anything) - you should really give it 23 hours - think about it and give it a rewrite. Surely you can do better than that?

Even if the objective is to say nothing. One thing is for sure your’e not an editor for An Phoblacht!

From what I see all responses from you can be summed up with rhetorical questions - including but not limited to -

It is hard to tell isn’t it?

It can’t be easy?

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They enjoy though, at least the ‘virtual struggle’ has less chance of causing harm than the actual ‘struggle’ that is progress!

Its so hard to tell its definitely not easy

they will eventually get a majority, republican slogans and all as most don't care as a UI is coming meaning the war is over.

FFG won't be able to keep them out this time, the march is on and we are going to win.

we have had enough of the civil war, catholic church enabling main 2 parties and the fighting irish will take it no more.

SF'S past glory is why we are a free country and why the illegal sectarian creation that is northern ireland will eventually be free and back part of it's home country.

tiocfaidh ar la.

An attitude like that ensures our country will be back in the Stone Age in one term.

Beg to differ,dude

From where I live in isolated Longford 20 miles to the first border crossing by road.

From my garden I can view co Fermanagh quite easily, with binoculars even see traffic on the road across the border. The former Sean Quinn quarry and loads of his factories lit up at night easily visible.

The border isn't far away. I have relatives and friends in Enniskillen and Keady and Omagh. I am, and have been all my life really, even through the troubles,a regular visitor to that area.

They are of a certain mindset that most people,including myself by times, would find disturbing perhaps politically. But it's been forced on them mostly by the actions of loyalists there rather than anything pressured on them by the IRA.

The vast majority are great people who have lived very difficult lives, certainly those of my age and older. If you hadn't or haven't a sympathy for their cause then you either haven't a clue or you don't care how they had to live or the conditions they lived in. It really wasnt much, if anything, short of what black South Africans went through.

What was it Gerry said about Django Unchained ? ‘Ballymurphy N*ggers’ I believe it was.

The bit that most annoys me about SF/IRA is not even the violence and equating their cause to others.

It the duplicity and talking from both sides of their mouths around such past. Zero sincerity to it.

I can’t have any sympathy for anyone who does that. If ‘the war’ is ‘over’. Why not talk straight? Instead we see the same auld stuff at the SF Ard Fheis.

https://m.independent.ie/videos/mary-lou-mcdonald-applauds-speech-glorifying-pira-42124984.html

From the speech from an older woman at the SF Ard Fheis. The words were just out of the SF-NI playbook that have been used for decades

But the woman Katy Power who was speaking her accent was working class Dublin. Representing Dublin Central.

Yet she had all the phrases ‘neither condemn nor apologise for’ her Republicanism. What does that even mean?

And then she went on about the right to sing songs and stories about former heroes?

Tell me what is that woman’s excuse? Was she living in the falls? Should I have sympathy for her?

She just parroted the old Republican phrases used in the troubles in a Dublin accent. But the worst sins for me are the zero awareness/accountability/ duplicity of language.

Last year a SF Dublin councillor made an excuse NOT to attend the unveiling of plaque in Dublin to Gardai shot by the IRA in 1940.

He claimed he ‘was not scheduled to attend the event’ this was the chair of the commemoration committee!

So who is codding who here? SF/PIRA as a whole has a long way to go to get my sympathy. It’s representatives must first start being completely honest about the ‘glorious past’ stop the duplicity, and show maturity and some accountability.

The only high profile SF person I have heard do so to any extent was Martin McGuinness. Pity more don’t follow his example.