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Old Connolly Station entrance

  • 28-10-2022 4:27pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭


    Just wondering about the original anticancer to Connolly Station, the old building with the tower above at the t-junction of Talbot St and Amiens Street. It is now just an entrance to a hallway with some steps up to the ticket hall but what was there before? In older pictures there are clearly some steps:


    Where did these steps lead to? What was the interior like? Why were they removed?


    Thanks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,410 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Looks like they could have led to what's now Madigans




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,077 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    They led up to the concourse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,447 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    They just led to the general public concourse area.



  • Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭dublincc2


    Any photographs of the old concourse? Why were the steps removed?



  • Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭dublincc2


    I remember there was a chequered floor on the old concourse, but I can’t seem to place where the Amiens Street steps led up to.



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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    My vague memory was that there was an escalator there in the early 1990s immediately prior to redevelopment. They just led up to the concourse, that street level area that is there now wasn’t publicly accessible at the time IIRC. The reason the escalator was moved was to open that area up and open an entrance onto the IFSC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,410 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,909 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There was definitely escalators up there in the 90s. There would have been a bar or buffet somewhere inside the station pre-refurb and Oslo (now Madigans) - where was it? Was it even still open?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,077 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    The steps and an upward escalator from Amiens Street were removed when the station concourse got a complete makeover in the late 1990s to allow for a much larger and completely redesigned concourse area.

    The old concourse was far smaller and very dark, gloomy and draughty.

    The steps and escalator just led you to that concourse, there were more flights of steps upward out of shot - the single escalator was to the left of the steps in the photo, under the tower.

    With the redesign of the concourse they needed to be removed as the space they used was now where the new pub (Oslo - now Madigan's) was being located.

    The 1990s refurbishment resulted in the new glass canopy entrance at the top of the old ramp (the ramp was subsequently removed to allow for Connolly LUAS stop to be built), a much brighter and larger concourse, and a further entrance (via stairs, a lift and escalators) was provided via a new subway under the main station building which allows through access to/from the IFSC area, which wasn't possible before.

    I can't find any photos of the old concourse, but I do remember it being depressingly dark, and that the new set up was a massive improvement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,853 ✭✭✭Trampas


    ive a vague memory of entrance to the left of photo which brought you up to platform 6/7 for a dart.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭ Cup


    Ah, I’d completely forgotten about the checkered floor in Heuston station as well. Would have been there a few times a year for our trip down west to my granny’s. A black and white one. Or am I misremembering and it was only in Connolly Station?

    Very nostalgic memory of the smell from the station back too, then with the trains and the smoking and the newspapers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,410 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ide say every major station had the exact same floor. I think Limerick still has the checkered floor.



  • Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭dublincc2


    I found a photograph of the station pre-refurbishment with The Specials band which was taken in 1980:


    What position was this photo taken from in today's station? Where is Madigans/the steps from Amiens Street positioned here? Is the Eason's to the left in the same spot as the Eason's in Connolly today? What is the opening at the right background and the white wall?


    Sorry for all the questions it's just I've completely forgotten what the old station was like and I'm just trying to place it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,077 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    The platforms are to the right and you are looking east from in front of where the “Bean & Gone” café is now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 934 ✭✭✭d51984


    Its a disgrace Joe!



  • Registered Users Posts: 934 ✭✭✭d51984


    Old layout.

    Its a disgrace Joe!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,077 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    That’s the old suburban station entrance, further up Amiens Street, which is now converted to offices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    I can't figure this out. If we are facing east would the platforms not be to our left? Is the big opening not where the P&T used to drive the mail trucks in from the ramp to P1 to load and unload the mail trains?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I was through it back in the day. Can't remember it much at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2


    I thought the opening in the top right of that Specials photo was out to where the taxi rank was at the Southern end of the station, but maybe not as I also have a vague memory of a vehicle entrance in the same area across the road from Gandon House area, that when you drove in you immediately turned left up a ramp where you drove up to the concourse level.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,251 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    You are right. There was a road ramp up that led up to a road entrance for the station; a taxi rank sat here while the 90 bus had its terminus there for several years as well. The ramp was removed to make way for the Connolly Luas platforms in the 00's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2




  • Registered Users Posts: 934 ✭✭✭d51984


    Top of the ramp 1994. (Photo allaboutbuses.com)

    'The Ramp' 1969


    Its a disgrace Joe!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,077 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    My bad - getting my left & right confused - the platforms are of course indeed to the LEFT!

    Post edited by LXFlyer on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭markpb


    For a country with so, so, so many rail plans, the construction and demolition of the ramp within a few years is a spectacular mishap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,804 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    It wasn't constructed and demolished "within a few years"; the ramp providing vehicular access to the concourse level was constructed in the 1870s and removed in 2004.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭markpb


    My mistake, I was thinking about the demolition of the ramp followed by the subsequent downgrade of Luas Connolly when the extension to the Point was built.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,077 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    To be fair the LUAS Connolly stop allows for turnbacks and more intensive service where it is most needed, between Connolly and Heuston.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭dublincc2


    In the original plans from 1837 the Dublin terminus of the Drogheda railway was intended to be located O'Connell Street, roughly where Clerys is now:

    Imagine how things would be different if it was built there. More central than Amiens Street and it might give O'Connell Street some sense of purpose today being a central railway hub. No need for the Loopline Bridge either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,804 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    How would there be no need for the loop line bridge? It might not have been erected exactly where it is today, but at some point they were going to have to link the city's different railways.



  • Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭dublincc2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,804 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    I'm not seeing how this would create a good opportunity to build underground lines. Explain it to me like I'm five years old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,909 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Money.

    Loop Line could have been built underground (with longer approaches and stations under Connolly and Pearse) had they wanted to. But it would have been incredibly expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,804 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    and how would it have been cheaper to build an underground loop line via O'Connell Street?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    Did Irish Rail give a reason for removing the entrance on Amiens St for Platforms 6 &7 ?

    It would save time for lots and lots of passengers. A very handy timesaver. I cannot think of a good reason to close it. Security maybe?

    I do remember GP motorcycles who leased the space and are now sadly long moved away , they always gave me top service

    Super interesting thread, thanks for starting OP



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,909 ✭✭✭✭L1011




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Lack of accessibility was certainly one of the reasons (excuses) given, what with just a steep set of stairs. Saving money on a second gateline and pushing all traffic through the refurbished concourse/Luas connection was more like the real reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,164 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    there was a wheelchair lift there, you can see it to the right of the stairs in the photo further up the thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    The station is still draughty and gloomy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,528 ✭✭✭cml387


    When I were a nipper and going to Mullingar to Dublin for the day the Sligo train terminated in Pearse St. (or Westland Row as we still called it).

    Sometime during the seventies Sligo services were moved to terminate in Connolly.



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