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ESB eCars

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    #7112
    mfceiling
    Registered Users Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119854216#Comment_119854216

    Wow!! I was there on Monday and it was showing offline on the app!! I waited for a car to finish in the 50kw so I could use that.



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    #7113
    eddhorse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,781 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    That new fine for parking in EV spots is gonna work well.....eventually. Meanwhile in Tesco Celbridge

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    Also screw you Boards photos.



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    #7114
    UID0
    Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭UID0


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119861861#Comment_119861861

    They put the charge point in the wrong place in Celbridge. It's right beside the washing machines, so it's usually iced by people using them. The ones in Maynooth are at the points in the car park furthest from the shop, so don't usually get iced.



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    #7115
    zg3409
    Registered Users Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭zg3409


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119853946#Comment_119853946

    Hopefully they will upgrade all Tesco AC to DC, and put multiple DC next to each other. Lidl have been going the 50kW DC single unit route on newer stores.



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    #7116
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,341 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The irony here is that Elmore are a parking enforcement company among other things….

    Ive already tweeted Holden saying it’s not a good look one of their vans blocking an EV charging space. and I've just emailed Elmore (sales@elmore.ie) about how its not a good look for them either...

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    #7117
    eddhorse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,781 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    They are definitely stopping any other ICE cars parking there alright.

    Also a sticker on the blue van is being used by An Post.



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    #7118
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,341 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The response…

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    #7119
    mfceiling
    Registered Users Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    @liamog did you get a decent speed from the 150kw "high powered" charger at Sundrive?

    I arrived here with a pre heated battery and it went up to 66kw then dropped to 62 after a minute and after another 5 minutes I'm currently taking in 55kw.

    I'm presuming it's being limited somehow? No other cars are or were using it.



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    #7120
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users Posts: 11,356 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119862559#Comment_119862559

    That'll be ESB beating the peak 😉

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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    #7121
    UID0
    Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭UID0


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119862230#Comment_119862230

    I heard the post box has moved from the site for the new Costa to just beside the charge points (about 1m away from the bollard at the back of the Elmore van), so I wonder if they were involved in that. Doesn't justify it though.



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    #7122
    eddhorse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,781 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Another price increase on 20th December 2022.

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    #7123
    10-10-20
    Registered Users Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902345#Comment_119902345

    Anna's getting a pay-rise and she's taking the ECDL (hopefully) too.



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    #7124
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users Posts: 11,356 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    And people used to complain about Ionity prices 😏

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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    #7125
    Fingleberries
    Registered Users Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902396#Comment_119902396

    Jeepers, Yeah - at that rate, the membership rates on Ionity are almost half that of a slow ESB charger.



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    #7126
    sh81722
    Registered Users Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭sh81722


    LOL the pricing. The guts of €0.65/kWh PAYG for "fast" charging.



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    #7127
    pad199207
    Registered Users Posts: 7,184 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Ridiculous



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    #7128
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users Posts: 11,356 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah I don't Ecars surviving long at those prices. They'll stick around because a lot of people have no choice, but they're going to get squeezed out of their more profitable routes

    A lot of folks would have used an ESB unit even if Ionity was free beside it simply because it's cheaper. Now that argument is gone out the window

    Although I wonder how long before Ionity decide to increase prices...

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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    #7129
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users Posts: 11,356 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902413#Comment_119902413

    The 50c/kWh for AC charger is pretty shocking IMO. Ecars were saying there's no money in AC charging, at those prices I'm not so sure

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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    #7130
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,151 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    On January 1st the cost of ESB AC was 29c per kWh, this latest increase brings it to a 97% rise since then. But privatisation means competition and lower prices somehow???

    I particularly like how they blame the wholesaler, ie ESB ecars saying it's the fault of ESB Networks who are a completely separate company *wink wink nudge nudge*



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    #7131
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,374 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Sure what are domestic rates at these days? Back when ECars Slow charging was ~26c/kWh (or was it even less) domestic rates were ~16c/kwh on a 24hours tariff (1.5x domestic). Now domestic rates are ~40c/kWh on a 24 hour tariff vs 56c/kWh. Same scale, just energy prices have gone up. Screws their "this magical leaf costs X per 100km vs a focus diesel" PR they always tag on.



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    #7132
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,151 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902492#Comment_119902492

    It all comes back to the same problem of privatisation, we had some of the cheapest electricity in Europe when we only had one public utility to pay



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    #7133
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,989 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I have no problem with these increases. Electricity is going up. It's unfortunate but that's the reality of it. Even if this makes it exactly the same cost as ICE, remember that the vast majority of EV charging is done at home. My home charging costs me 7c per kWh.



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    #7134
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,151 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902528#Comment_119902528

    You make a good point but I drive my car to other places from time to time and can't always make use of my cheaper home rate I imagine more people will be in my boat than yours



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    #7135
    Onearmedbandit
    Registered Users Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Onearmedbandit


    "Sustained higher wholesale energy costs throughout Europe" - But the day ahead wholesale electricity prices are back lower than the level in April when the last price increase was put in place. Admittedly there is significant volatility in the market in the past number of months but depending on ecars forward purchasing strategy it could have been well shielded from a requirement to further increase prices.



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    #7136
    Royale with Cheese
    Registered Users Posts: 9,116 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I don't use the ESB chargers much anymore but I used to rely on them, that price increase is ouch for anyone who still does.



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    #7137
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,151 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902572#Comment_119902572

    Ironically enough the unit price of Electricity in Europe, particularly France, where we have the inter connector, is much cheaper than what we have here



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    #7138
    cannco253
    Registered Users Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭cannco253


    is esb still cheaper then Tesla supercharger rates?



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    #7139
    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,514 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902467#Comment_119902467

    its pretty much online with the wholesale costs.


    look how much the details price is now



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    #7140
    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,514 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902656#Comment_119902656

    We don’t have an interconnecte to France , we will have and it will lead to lower prices



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    #7141
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users Posts: 11,356 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902572#Comment_119902572

    That's a slightly artificial decrease. The prices of electricity are tied to gas prices, which have dropped significantly across Europe

    This isn't because Europe magically found more gas, it's because they ran out of storage. There's enough to get through winter and October was pretty mild, so they're mostly sustaining the storage levels

    So any LNG tankers that pulled into port suddenly had to offload their cargo. I think there's some rules that say they're basically not allowed to leave the terminal with full tanks, so they're forced to sell their cargo very cheap to get rid of it


    It's possible that gas prices will go up after winter as European countries try to refill their storage again

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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