What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

I’ve no doubt they can provide reams of evidence which supports their position, anyone can do that. That’s why I call it cherry picking, it’s why I question it, because their claims don’t align with my experiences. If I think a claim sounds dodgy, I’ll question it if I could be arsed, or I’ll dismiss it as bullshìt. I’m assuming that approach is no different from anyone else here. As tiresome and uninteresting as you may find it, you’re not forced to be here, and you’re not forced to participate in the discussion, and when you come out with extraordinary claims, you can’t honestly expect to be immune from criticism as though nobody has the right to question your ideas.

I’m not shy about representing my position at all, I’ve made my position clear already - I think anyone making the sorts of claims you’re making is full of shìt. I couldn’t care less about providing a community service or pretending I give a fiddlers about other countries in Europe or Ireland or any of the rest of the nonsense when it’s patently obvious what they actually care about is promoting their own interests.

I’m sure there’s a more polite term than bullshìtter to describe the phenomenon you’re referring to too of people who bear animosity towards other people on the basis of their socioeconomic or social status, political views or religious beliefs, employment or family status, ethnicity, sex, etc, the whole gamut of characteristics which can be labelled and categorised in more polite terms. I really don’t care, ‘bullshìtter’ is just more convenient to describe their attitude towards other people who they deem unworthy of their respect. The fact is though that in the same society they’re claiming they wish to protect, they are only interested in protecting their own interests, and characterise anyone who doesn’t share their opinions in an unfavourable, unreasonable and unfair manner by referring to them as ‘leeches’ and so on -

That’s why a statement like “it almost appears as if you have a hatred for your own people and want to see them negatively affected” means nothing, because it makes me wonder who is “your own people” in that context? It’s actually yourself you’re referring to when you come out with that kind of statement. Because it can’t be the Irish people who you refer to as leeches who don’t pay taxes or any of the rest of it, and apparently you have no time either for narrow minded conspiracy theorists who have angles or agendas.

By their own words and the language they use and the way they speak of other people, it’s obvious that in spite of their signalling their virtues of caring for the welfare of the Irish people, or ‘the indigenous people’ if you prefer, it’s clear from their opinions that they only care about the people who are identical to themselves.

That group of people doesn’t exist. It’s why there’s just no popular support for their ideas, because people who think like them are just as self-interested and share the same disdain for other people as they do. That’s why they can’t agree among themselves on anything and only ever poll about 1% in national elections. It’s why they coalesce around a single thread and try to steer the discussion their way in order to promote their own narrative which serves their own interests, and obviously it stands to reason that they’ll attempt to shun and humiliate anyone who questions their narrative.

Your own behaviour isn’t any different than the behaviour you’re critical of in other people who don’t share your opinions. I’ve no need to justify myself to you or to anyone else for that matter before I question your extraordinary claims, but for what it’s worth - I wouldn’t want you to see me as one of ‘your people’, as I’m not seeking either your approval, or the validation.

My only interest is in questioning the validity or legitimacy of your extraordinary claims which the onus is upon you to justify if you’re arguing in favour of any changes in Irish laws which would actually have a negative impact upon other people in Irish society whose equal status and participation in Irish society you claim is detrimental to Irish people’s welfare.

Somehow I think you're being a little disingenuous. Just a hunch.

Well if Eamonn Ryan says it, must be true 😁

Was only talking about him earlier this evening when myself and the young lad were discussing the Government’s plans for “rotating Taoiseach” next month -

https://www.thejournal.ie/leo-varadkar-micheal-martin-taoiseach-changeover-5915469-Nov2022/

Apparently Leo is due back in control as Taoiseach, but there’s a possibility Eamon could be Tanaiste. I’d love to see Eamon as Taoiseach tbh, he’s completely useless, but thoroughly entertaining at the same time. His ‘we’ll have our salads ready to go’ speech was comedy gold! 😁

Around 1000 Albanian people come here every year to seek asylum. GNIB staff have started taking the unprecedented measures of meeting them at the aircraft so they don’t destroy or bin their passports or other documents…

There is no war going on there.

but they seek that Irish citizens facilitate them with a better life, free housing, free healthcare, free travel… etc..

a similar issue with Georgians.

This is the main problem, it's the number of people and it is constantly growing. In the western countries that aren't we want to import more and more people to make sure it does. There will be no space for any wild animals in Africa if the population increase doesn't slow down and all these extra people need to constantly consume and use resources. However this doesn't appear to be an issue for the greens because, let's face it they are all in on the globalist non stop growth and profit for the rich model, while the plebs can put up with reduced standards of living.

I just love how you chastise me for grouping people and making assertions about what others may think and then you go off and do the same thing. Multicultralism means TROUBLE.

It means we sacrifice homogeneity of a society to placate the fools that for the most part reckon they are superior to other people, be it their own group or the ones they usually want to invite in to live a totally different alien way of life.

And no that does not mean I want all pasty White Irish people or all catholics or some such.

I want a secular Western democracy where we don't have idiots going off to join the likes of ISIS, we don't have demands for the reintroduction of segregation in education to placate the demands of a certain religion, we don't have the introduction of FGM, etc.

And he with go again with the massive jumping to conclusios

Please find one single post where I laud or back Gemma O'Doherty or her fellow spanner Waters?

So put up or shut up as they say.

Mostly not but what happens is the far right descend and hijack