BMW i4

Adding only metallic paint, performance battery and cheapest decent alloy wheels brings the Taycan to 105k.

I could easily add to that bill with “essential” options.

20k more than the BMW i4 m50 even after the price rise.

In reality probably even more as you’re going to need more than a basic car to maintain residuals.

to me 20/30 k is a big price difference so I don’t think they’re comparable.

How does the BMW compare in performance and battery to the Porsche?

Regarding the Taycan, I think you'd need your head examined for getting an e-tron GT over the Taycan. Starts at €108k and Audi bend you over on options just as bad.

Yes the one thing that would bug me is that the standard Taycan is a tad slow. That said, both the Taycan 4S and i4 M50 need to have launch control on to do 0-60 in 4s. My now ancient former Tesla achieved the same time just by putting your right foot down - and unlike the above with AWD, it only had RWD so you only got that sort of acceleration if you were lucky enough the road was bone dry so you got the traction you needed 😁

I much prefer the look of the Audi to be honest, I’m not that sold on the looks of the saloon Taycan. As someone said, the RWD Taycan is a bit slow when you compare it to the 4S, Audi and i4 m50.

needs to be in sport boost mode the get the full 544PS.

Yeah, you're right. Still needs sports but no need to mess about with launch control.

That's what launch control should do but in the i4's case it's just a gimmick and all it does is shake the car for effect.

One of the earliest guys to pick one up did some extensive testing in his on the i4talk site.

@stesaurus - "all it does is shake the car for effect."

Seriously? 😂 So a bit of fake engine noise, a bit of fake diesel rattle, I'm sure they have done their research with customer groups so it must be hard to get a typical BMW buyer into an EV.

Pal of mine has i4 40 model ordered since April.

it’s built and arriving this month for January delivery. He went in this week to finalise the deal.

Surprise, surprise dealer is now offering 8k less for his 201 5 series trade in than previously indicated. He’s a serial customer there but they told him no problem if he doesn’t want the car as they’ll sell it on no problem. Told him he’s getting it at the pre increase price and they can get the higher price for it if he passes.

BMW dealers never change…

Why would they offer him the same now? His second hand car is now worth €8k less, why would the dealer take this loss? If he thinks it is worth more, he can go sell it privately or to the trade himself.

i reckon a basic car will have better residuals than anything else to be honest.

No.

Up until a month ago he was being given an indicative trade in price roughly 8k more than what they now offer.

its about 12k below what BMW dealers are advertising similar cars at now.

he’s not the type up for private sale. He managed to get the deal better by 2.5k but it’s left a bitter taste.

I won't even go into the problems I had with trade-in values and just awful customer service when I bought the i4. They broke trust twice in 2 major areas and needless to say I won't be going to them again. The trade-in value was probably mostly my fault as I didn't get it in writing, but I won't be dealing with them again.