Russia - threadbanned users in OP

The experts always knew Russia was ****. We don't know until it's done. Who else is ****, who are overrated? I think China are ****. USA are the power now.

Still no sign of Putin, that dude is dead, shredded into a million pieces, and will never be heard of again.

USA has always been the power. There isn't a military on earth that comes even remotely close to their capability.

The world's second army is China, but in an actual conventional war they would be crushed. Doesn't mean they couldn't inflict damage obviously, but they wouldn't stand a chance.

Russia definitely was ridiculously over-rated as a military, but as you said, the experts knew that. What they didn't predict was a showing as utterly dismal as the one in Ukraine considering they were going up against a foe so minuscule comparatively and operating a similar level of tech.

Modern wars are won by intelligence, strike capability, combined arms, tech and effective air power. Infantry, tanks, armored vehicles, planes, are worthless without structure, leadership, tech, etc.

Look at the Gulf Wars. Iraq lost thousands of tanks/AFV's while the coalition was barely scratched.

This is why Russia has floundered in Ukraine, it's why Israel was able to beat the brakes off several numerically superior countries at once on several occasions, etc.

EU armies are weak on paper compared to say, Russia, but in any actual conventional war, they would pummel Russia regardless. Their general tactics, command control, is still stuck in the WW2 mindset of brute force.

It's mind-boggling how many countries maintain huge low-tech armies at huge expense, that are effectively useless in modern war.

I dunno, isn't this the time he'd usually be attacking some kindergarten , or hospital, but instead silence, that dude is toast

O he is still around alright, in his panic room in his bunker fearing that dastardly Gargamel. [he of smurf fame] 😀

Spirit rising. An eff u to Russia.

Someone loaded an accurate model of the Chinese '5th' gen 'stealth' J-20 into an electronics environment simulator to estimate it's radar cross section and it's about as stealthy as an F-18.

China is every bit as much overrated as Russia. Recently there has been a major scandal about them hiring ex RAF and USAF pilots to train their air force. Australia just arrested a retired USAF pilot on his return to Oz from CHina. He's in custody awaiting extradition to the US.

China spends somewhere around 15% more or internal security than external, a mind boggling thought.

The Horde just tried a test of the Poseidon nuclear torpedo in the arctic and it failed.

A lingering death from cancer is far worse.

I'd rather not have either of them to be honest.

It purely reflects on the perpetrators and the show they made and what classes for their standards now. Putin take note if this is what is classed as the level it's at now.

What goes around. Comes around.

Well maybe re-read the accounts of how Ukrainian POWs are being constantly tortured to death, and the reason should become pretty clear, very rapidly.

Those thoughts crossed my mind.

My own. There seems to be some behind the scenes talks between Kyiv and Moscow. What with Kherson, etc.

There's a show being put on and this poor fecker was a pawn demanded.

As you say the alternative is wagner operatives able to work in Kyiv still and that's not a good look either.

War. Huh. What is it good for?...