"Green" policies are destroying this country

From the WEF justice report:"The COVID-19 pandemic pushed 150 million people into extreme poverty. By 2030, climate change is expected to push an additional 132 million into extreme poverty."

Yes, extreme poverty due to Covid restrictions and supply chain disruptions. And yes again, 132 million or more will be pushed into extreme poverty by the same supply chain disruptions due to the current and ongoing energy crisis caused by 30 years of bad policies and multiplied by the same 'climate action' in the form of CO2 target measures meant to tackle it. Remember, there is NO energy shortage issue here. Just a blind faith in faulty reasoning without weighing pros and cons as people like Bjorn Lomborg has pointed out. A complete mind virus multiplying. Worse than Covid in its effect.

I really should know better than to engage with him, but he posts such nonsense that is so easy to show it for what it is, it`s sometimes difficult to resist the temptation.

In my defense, I look on it as a bit of public service as it keeps all those that have him on ignore up to date on his nonsense 😉

Jaysus you spout some shite, you do know that whoever is in power can determine what is in legislation ? It can be changed at a whim. Condoms were illegal during the 80s ffs , laws change all the time.

Yes every party agrees to it at the moment, as I said that can change at a whim. It all depends on who is in power, do you really think that legislation can be enlisted and never changed ?? Was this green law handed down by Moses on a tablet and enforced forever more by the green police. More green fantasy shite.

Spanish Inquisition is exactly where the climate head bangers want to go. With all the laws created and political agreements, they believe it is their destiny to to enforce the view they have assumed on the world. The outcome of the Duarte case will have a big impact on how these cases are interpreted by judges in future.

Climate Politics Disguised as Human Rights at "The European Climate Change Court"

Is all these countries owed reparations affected directly by climate change going to go net zero too by such n such a date as well as the rest of us? Considering there the ones most affected

It will be interesting to watch the green fanboys being replaced or ignored as the recession hits more and more. Every country will be in trouble due to the Green Agenda and cannot hold the line without a real revolution. Each country will react differently but a great reset will happen. People will rise up and demand democracy.Laws will have to be replaced. All because of reality. The Green wall will be breached unless the EU turns into a nr of Green police states with 'greenshirts' io blackshirts. It is the secret wish of many environmentalists, to be able to make people comply with their demands, by force if needed. They have no qualms about it just like the Nazis and the communists. They feel no remorse or sympathy. They are a pathetic bunch in thrall of an ideology. Time will sort them out. It's a matter of time..

I showed clearly on the Nuclear - future for Ireland thread that rather than your Four times as much energy for a 50% lower income commitment, or your claim earlier here of it being Six times were incorrect. Best case for the ESB plan is that offshore construction alone will cost €83 Bn to provide 6.3 gigawatts (your figure) for domestic consumption. Your worst case using Hinkley would be two Hinkleys producing 6.4 gigawatts that cost €60 Bn. That is €23 Bn. cheaper than the ESB plan and doesn`t even include the costings for hydrogen.

That is the difference in costs using Hinkley as an example. From the recent agreement Poland signed to build nuclear plants, plus the prices quoted by the other companies who bid for the contract, the saving would be at least twice that with any of them.

The U.K. government will not be forced to hand over money to Hinkley until 2062. The U.K. government has a contract for difference with Hinkley where Hinkley will supply 35 years of electricity for €81 Bn. That is less than the first phase of offshore construction here for the first wave of turbines with further construction costs every time they reach their end of life.

Those future offshore costs plus hydrogen production and storage are the hidden cost of the the ESB plan. Is that more or less than the cost to decommission a nuclear plant (which was €3 Bn. according to you a few days ago if I recall correctly), providing 90+% capacity over 60 years ?

Drax is supposedly a carbon neutral supplier of electricity. The fact that is a green-washing bookkeeping scam has nothing to do with Hinkley.

The 50/50 split for the electricity produced is domestic electricity/hydrogen. The hydrogen element of the ESB plan has nothing to do with selling it off to other industries. It`s solely to generate and store hydrogen due to the intermittency and undependability of wind and as such will have to be paid for by consumers, which means consumers will be paying twice the strike price for their electricity.

Why you are asking me what that strike price will be ? I have no idea. Same as I do not know, nor does anyone else it seems, what the cost of the hydrogen part of that plan will costs. But then I am not pushing that plan. But whatever the strike price would be, the consumer would be paying double. Once for the electricity they use, plus the same again for the electricity to produce the hydrogen with the cost of the hydrogen storage on top.

You do not like nuclear. I doubt anybody does not get that at this stage, but that does not change the facts. The ESB plan is completely and utterly bonkers as a financially viable plan of reaching zero carbon emission by 2050. Or any other year. And not just financially bonkers for consumers but also for the economy.

In the Netherlands the greens were criticising the grid operators for not putting in more investment in the grid in order for the green transition to take place. Then the grid operators asked them to present a report to outline the costs in relation to the volume needed, like any company would. They never got that. The greens are not dealing with this in a serious way but instead throw these target numbers out and tie them to possible future green tech which magically makes everything fit. Right now this is 'green hydrogen'. It is as if they are determined to stack lossy tech on another lossy tech. The dutch grid operators who know their system inside and out are scratching their heads. They are not used to deal with nonsense. They are technicians/engineers with numerical skills. Even the dutch and german engineers feel the weight of politicians on their shoulders to just, you know, make it happen. Again, manipulating numbers to reach a certain outcome will not work in practice and reality. Never. It remains a green dream turned nightmare. COP leads the way to the precipice. Mr Gutierrez is a pathetic clown leading a bunch of pumped up maniacs.

That genuinely made me laugh. We don't need the million EVs any more because Eamon Ryan has decided that walking and taking the bus is a better solution. Really, who does he think he's kidding? It's barely 100 days since the government launched Zero Emission Vehicles Ireland to "lead on the delivery of the Ireland’s ambitious target under the Climate Action Plan 2021 to have 945,000 electric vehicles in the Irish fleet by 2030". Their brochure says "over the second half of 2022 the team will quickly scale to deliver on its mission". Didn't they get the memo from Ryan? It's walking and buses now.

I presume the shameless goon has realise that we're not within an asses roar of meeting the 2030 target set just last year. Quick change of plan ... now nobody gets to drive. Will be fascinating to watch the rest of the Climate Action Plan crumble over the next couple of years. It won't change Ryan and his acolytes. They'll keep on coming up with even more urgent climate emergencies. Like "storm surges in Thurles". He might want to check on what a storm surge is and why you can't get them in Thurles. For a minute I thought he was just as thick as two short planks, then I realised he's doing a comedy sketch. For his next gag he tells us how climate migrants will be coming from uninhabitable parts of the world to our little island ... which he says will also be uninhabitable! It's a wee cracker 🤣🤣🤣

I've decided to just laugh along with Eamon. I take regular breaks from late night working on the computer to listen to climate podcasts, mostly about where we're going to get the oil and gas to keep civilisation alive. A ninety kilometre round trip to a garage on the traffic-free Naas Road to buy a packet of Tayo Snax is just long enough for a decent podcast and clears the head wonderfully. Being conscious of food miles, I calculate that I burn about 50 grams of petrol per gram of Snax. It's my modest little contribution to Eamon's next emergency. (And in this case I'm not joking).

Big countries will enforce the laws broken by little countries as we have seen during the 2008 financial crisis. Also, if big countries run into trouble laws will be changed to protect 'stability'. It is interesting to note that the EU is relaxing its growth and stability pact rules. The members clearly see that trouble is ahead. Germany is the big canary in the coalmine. It is being choked by its own claws shutting off its oxygen supply ie, nuclear power plants..