Police called to hotel on day of the National Party AGM

which group do you think I meant? There is enough info in my post.

were the group in the minibus holding an AGM?

so, logically, if I said the arseholes were having an AGM, and you knew the minibus group weren’t having an AGM, which group is it likely I was talking about?

use your **** brain please before replying to me next time, thx

You don’t understand your own post titled “paradox of tolerance” by the looks of your post above. The paradox applies in a very specific context -

The chapter in question explicitly defines the context to that of political institutions and the democratic process, and rejects the notion of "the will of the people" having valid meaning outside of those institutions. Thus, in context, Popper's acquiescence to suppression when all else has failed applies only to the state in a liberal democracy with a constitutional rule of law that must be just in its foundations, but will necessarily be imperfect.

ie that it is the responsibility of the Judiciary, and not the will of the people, which must ensure a balance between people’s freedoms, and tolerance of intolerance. The paradox doesn’t apply to people who choose to take the law into their own hands to mete out their own brand of justice.

The arseholes who organised the AGM are undoubtedly intolerant arseholes, but you can’t use the principle of the paradox of intolerance to justify the behaviour of the group of arseholes in the minibus who took the law into their own hands.

Contrary to your opinion, there exists plenty of evidence to suggest that vigilantism only exacerbates problems, it doesn’t make them go away, and it is the duty and responsibility of the authorities such as the Gardaí and the PSNI to defend everyone 24/7, regardless of their political beliefs.

As it turns out, the PSNI DID respond to a call -

Inspector Taylor of the PSNI said: "It was reported that a conference, which was being held in the area, had been disrupted by protestors and an altercation broke out.

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2022/1113/1335893-hotel-row/

That’s what is meant by the paradox of intolerance and being intolerant of intolerance. The authorities of the Judiciary, not the people, will be the arbiters of justice, as determined by instruments of law, not popular opinion.

For any ordinary decent person here would you like to see the NP running this country. The answer would be hell f**king no.

Would you like to see those bus load of anti fascists running the country. The answer should also be hell f**king no.

Let them meet and talk all they want but law enforcement should be keeping a close eye on both to ensure no violence or threats of violence or any breaking of the law should be tolerated.

That's not literally the definition.

Conspiracy theory forum is that way >>>

I know exactly what deflect means!

The source of this line of discussion comes from Danzy stating that

The Communists and Fascists were close allies longer than they were enemies.

This statement is simply not true, some poster raised the Ribbentrop Molotov pact as a distraction and deflection by way of defence of Danzys statement.

However the Ribbentrop pact was only active for over a year and and the period of war between nazi fascist Germany and Stalins communist Russia is longer than the period the non aggression pact lasted. So this pact does not prove danzys statement, that fascists were allies longer than there enemies.

Now is that enough of this deflection?

Belying that image he is actually divorced and remarried separated from his previous partner and in a new relationship. So not only an extremist but a hypocritical one. Delightful.

I’m well aware that theoretically this should be handled by the countries justice system.

the point I’m making is that this is a retarded and unworkable system, and we need to be more realistic in our expectations of the Gardai and justice system. They cannot cope with this sort of organisation once they reach a certain critical mass.

This is seen every time there’s a crowd - often the Gardai are forced to ask ordinary people to leave instead of forcing the unruly mob to leave an area.

Most recently I’ve seen this in the incident at Cherry Orchard where the Garda car was rammed by a stolen car, twice, and the Garda car had to speed away.

perhaps your understanding of the subject is not as good as you think - it’s one thing to understand the theory, but another thing to understand the practical limitations of that theory.

Margaret Thatcher became sceptical of EU membership while she was still Prime Minister.

British Euroscepticism was never a fringe movement. There were always senior Tories and established media like The Spectator pushing it for decades.

There is a difference between a criminal conspiracy and a meeting of a party whose ideas have been 'designated' as 'hateful' by independent orgs.

The lack of Garda numbers has nothing to do with it as they don't arrest people for belonging to dodgy political parties to begin with.

A U.S.-based 'watchdog' with little or no understanding of the context of Irish Catholicism calls a Catholic group 'extremist'.

Typical Yank ignorance.

But American misunderstandings of Irish culture are not relevant to Irish people.