Immigration Control Officer - Dublin Airport

cw67irl · 02-10-2022 2:12pm

Any results out or are interviews still ongoing?

KarenCarberry · 03-10-2022 10:11pm

@cw67irl i haven’t heard anything back yet

katiexo · 04-10-2022 4:22pm

Results are in guys

KarenCarberry · 04-10-2022 5:07pm

Results are there

katiexo · 05-10-2022 12:57pm

Any idea of how many posts are usually available in this area. They never gave an idea

KarenCarberry · 05-10-2022 9:39pm

@katiexo Im not sure either

eamano · 30-10-2022 6:27pm

Does any one know or can clarify please how is the shift allowance calculated. I know it stated in the booklet that it's 25% of the pay. So am I correct in assuming it is simply (Eur25,339 basic salary + 25% = 31673.75 per annum)

Also it stated a Sun premium is paid, does any one know how much or what % would that be?

tombliboo83 · 30-10-2022 8:21pm

It’s 25% on top of your basic as you’ve outlined. Sundays are double time at your basic rate.

katiexo · 31-10-2022 12:04am

Can anyone clarify expected overall salary with Sundays etc

eamano · 31-10-2022 1:53pm

thanks @tombliboo83 👌. So if i have my maths correct .... it's 48 Sundays a year and you are bound to work atleast half of them i.e. 24 which works out around Eur197 per sunday x 24 Sundays = Eur4728 roughly. And then a BH premium aswell which is mentioned by a few posters on page 36.

The reason I am asking all this is to see if it's worth my while doing it...I am on vetting stage and was having Buyer's Remorse 😄 when reading some of the commentary on this thread that the place has gone to dogs. Currently earning 40k in pvt sector. 37k is not fantastic, however it is not bad to begin with in the civil service.

cw67irl · 31-10-2022 2:13pm

You will be rostered to work every second weekend, Sunday Pay is based on attendance so if you are sick or on annual leave you won't get it.

Divide your point on the scale by 35 to get hourly rate then multiply by 12 to get the value for a Sunday.

Bank Holiday pay is slightly different in that its based on it you are rostered on or off.. Rostered off 21% of basic weekly rate, rostered on 28% of basic weekly rate. Paid irregardless if worked or not...

The role is probably one of the best paid CO roles going. You will be on a par with the EO scale on the shift allowance alone... You will also carry this on promotion so you will benefit from it there aswell. The Sunday and Bank Holiday premiums are not reckonable for promotion just the shift.

The job does have its negatives but also its positives... I did it for years and loved it being honest I did fall out of love with it to a point and it became time to move.. But that was down to many factors.

It opens doors for promotion, it's interesting and varied work with no 2 days being the same.. as cheesy as it sounds it is true.

There aren't many other CS roles as interesting or varied.. Part of the reason people push to get back there on promotion!

Happy to answer questions on it if people have individual queries.

mcfarlpc · 31-10-2022 4:36pm

Just wondering what number you were placed on the panel seen as you are at the vetting stage already . Thanks

emcfarl · 01-11-2022 12:03am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119815331#Comment_119815331

I am number 85 on the interview panel do you think I could get called

eamano · 01-11-2022 7:53am

@emcfarl i was 14 after test for interview then placed at 11 after interview. I'd say there be a lot of late drop offs from the list and also considering the place is a revolving door as per the messages here ... your number will come soon.

eamano · 01-11-2022 8:09am

@cw67irl There is a clause in the booklet which states :

Staff retained beyond the initial probation period (of 12 months) minimum period are required to then serve a minimum of 3 years at the airport, unless promoted.

So does that mean that after 2 years as an ICO (1 year probation 1 year service) one cannot apply for internal civil service competitions in other departments? Because correct me if I am worng, it is usually after 2 years a civil servant at any role can apply for internal competitions. Could you or anyone please clarify.

cw67irl · 01-11-2022 8:50am

The restriction applies to things like mobility, secondment or visa offices essentially anything at the same grade. You can move on internal competitions once you meet the requirements for the competition and move on open anytime.

To move elsewhere as a CO you would have to come off an open panel to escape the contract so to speak.

emcfarl · 02-11-2022 7:49am

Eamano were you. Advised that you are currently being vetted for a possible position at the airport

eamano · 02-11-2022 7:56am

@emcfarl I was emailed by PAS and asked to return them the vetting forms.

emcfarl · 03-11-2022 9:38am

Where does the training for the newly recruited ICO s take place and does anyone know for how long Thanks

eamano · 05-11-2022 10:27pm

@emcfarl I am assuming it will be at the airport. Excerpt from the ICO Info Booklet in regards to Training...

"Officers will be required to undergo a combination of online, classroom-style training and on-the-job coaching and mentoring for a period of several weeks. Candidates will need to be available for the duration of this training period. A shift roster and a shift rate of pay will not apply to this or any such period of assignment. Office hours, Monday to Friday will apply. Performance during training and mentoring will be considered in the context of the probation process".

One thing which doesn't sit easy is the use of the wording "Several Weeks".

How long is a piece of string?

emcfarl · 06-11-2022 12:10am

Thanks for that info

you will probably be there in a few weeks so keep in touch an let me know thanks best of luck

eamano · 06-11-2022 11:03am

@cw67irl Do you know how long the training go on for. Several weeks as stated in the ICO booklet doesn't give much away. What I am trying to get to at is roughly how long before one is operational on shifts so to speak.

dat6 · 06-11-2022 1:05pm

lkolmry · 09-11-2022 5:17pm

Hi, does anyone have any idea of what number they are up to now in terms of taking people forward for appointment? I placed 97 after the interview - just wondering how long it could take, if ever.

jjdd88 · 10-11-2022 8:25pm

I was placed 29 after interview and got called for vetting 3 weeks later (1st Nov 22). Currently waiting on Extra Security Clearance which they said can take up to 16 weeks.

Anyone know what the training consists of?

cw67irl · 12-11-2022 12:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119840013#Comment_119840013

Generally it's classroom format for a couple of weeks that will include some days observing in the Airport. Then you will be assigned to your teams and given a mentor to work with you and bring from the classroom phase onto the job and get you operational so to speak

jjdd88 · 14-11-2022 7:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119863971#Comment_119863971

Thank you. Are the classes based in the Airport itself? I'd be commuting so handy to know the training venue in advance. In Customs, we did most of our training in an external training branch, then the rest in the Port. It's a tough decision to switch from my current post to Immigration but hopefully it will be the right move.

Is anybody here currently in the BMU and can give accurate and helpful feedback before I make the move?

cw67irl · 14-11-2022 9:48am

I did my training in an airport Hotel, there are some days on site aswell, I'm not sure what the current training plan is for this group although there aren't really a lot of training rooms available on the airport campus so hotel conference facilities are the norm...

I doubt you will get too many current BMU staff posting on here but im only recently gone from it so if you want to send me specific questions il answer anything you need.

jjdd88 · 14-11-2022 12:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119871648#Comment_119871648

Thanks so much, I appreciate that. I am torn at the moment because this thread seems to have mixed reviews and I'm worried I would be leaving a handy number in Customs for a job that I might regret taking, however I specialise in Immigration so I'm eager to get into a role in that field.

Do you mind me asking, did you leave because of the job conditions or for personal reasons (no disclosure needed obviously)?

What would a typical day consist of?

What is the best and worst part of the job?

Thanks in advance :)

wangchung · 15-11-2022 3:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119872403#Comment_119872403

Have the Haddington Road Hours been restored in Customs?

cw67irl · 15-11-2022 3:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119877499#Comment_119877499

Customs or Immigration?

cw67irl · 15-11-2022 10:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119872403#Comment_119872403

Maybe give me a shout 😂

emcfarl · 16-11-2022 6:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119879393#Comment_119879393

Does anyone know how many is on the panel for this competition.

wangchung · 17-11-2022 12:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119877637#Comment_119877637

Customs

emcfarl · 17-11-2022 6:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119885248#Comment_119885248

Immigration in my case

cw67irl · 17-11-2022 6:16pm

I believe they adjusted rosters

emcfarl · 17-11-2022 6:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119886683#Comment_119886683

What effect would that have on the panel thanks

emcfarl · 20-11-2022 6:40pm

Anyone know how many has been contacted for vetting for Immigration Control Officer

katiexo · 28-12-2022 3:44pm

Anyone any update on this

KarenCarberry · 30-12-2022 1:04pm

I haven’t heard anything since October, hopefully will hear in the next week or so

yourdeadwright · 03-01-2023 5:38pm

Out of interest what is the Salary like if you do get in ,

ken1302 · 10-01-2023 10:33pm

Starting Salary :

Basic scale point 1: €26599

25%Shift allowance : € 6649.75

26 Sundays :€ 3,855.54

10 bank Holidays: approx €1500

Point 1 Gross salary: €38,604.29

TestLink · 11-01-2023 5:34pm

Only €38,604.29! I am surprised. What is all the hype about this job then?

billyhead · 11-01-2023 8:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120095087#Comment_120095087

I think a lot of people working there and also in customs think the promotion prospect are better than working in a normal admin role.

job seeker · 15-01-2023 4:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120095728#Comment_120095728

Are they in this role?

I spoke to someone who works in Customs before and he said that he was in 1.5 years and was promoted to EO. 3 years in he was going for an HEO interview.

cw67irl · 15-01-2023 4:27pm

Promotions are different in Customs to ISD. There are much fewer opportunities to move up in an allowanced position in ISD so it isn't comparable.

Most staff who move on promotion go to "regular" EO postings.

billyhead · 15-01-2023 5:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120111795#Comment_120111795

I think staff who work in customs can be moved to a non allowances promoted posts aswell. It depends on business needs. There's no guarantee that you stay in customs if you get promoted. Likewise for Immigration control.

job seeker · 15-01-2023 6:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120112051#Comment_120112051

Forgive my ignorance, are those non-allowances promoted within revenue or other departments? Either way I'd see that as a positive as customs would be though I'd imagine.

cw67irl · 15-01-2023 6:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120112051#Comment_120112051

There is no direct promotion within Immigration, you leave the allowanced airport post go to a normal EO posting in justice

job seeker · 15-01-2023 7:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120112499#Comment_120112499

I thought a min of 5 years had to be done in customs before that though? Or is that if you remain in the CO post?

Immigration Control Officer - Dublin Airport

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