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The future of James Bond

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,372 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Yeah, right now my picks would be Hoult, Hiddleston (maybe a hair old at 41, but still just about viable) or as an interesting outside option, Riz Ahmed. He's a shorty, but he's still taller than Tom Cruise - screen presence counts for a lot, and Riz has plenty of that! Some crafty camera angles and blocking and I don't think his height would be an issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,018 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    absolutely not, he's way too short and not enough screen presence for the role.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    He's the same heights as Tom Cruise. Certainly didn't stop Cruise.

    But he is too baby-faced for the role.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,018 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Cruise has screen presence, Tom Holland definitely does not. He's a boy and great as Spider-man but definitely not bond. Bond is a man.

    I wouldn't cast Tom Cruise as Bond either btw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Michael Fassbender or Jamie Dorman, perhaps?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    The problem with a Bond in his 20s is that Craig hit a lot of the marks of a modern young Bond anyway. Kingsman basically did it as well.

    They have 2 choices; gender bend or do a seasoned Bond in a different era akin to the Mission Impossible type films. The latter is much more appealing. Henry Cavill would tick every box and would larkin back to what the old films were about while appealing to all.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Bond producer Michael G Wilson has confirmed we definitely won't see a Bond in his 20s or younger with whatever reboot they have planned; so presumably unless the given actor looks older than that, they'll cast a 30-something.

    However, he did reveal that younger actors are out of the running. ”We’ve tried looking at younger people in the past. But trying to visualize it doesn’t work. Remember, Bond’s already a veteran. He’s had some experience. He’s a person who has been through the wars, so to speak. He’s probably been in the SAS or something. He isn’t some kid out of high school that you can bring in and start off. That’s why it works for a thirty-something.”




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,322 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Anyone else been watching the new series of The Crown? Timothy Dalton plays Group Captain Peter Townsend in it and seeing him in officer's uniform has me wishing I had Wilson or Brocolli's ear to pitch the idea of bringing him back for the next Bond movie...

    Logan showed how well the aged hero trope can work and there's so much opportunity for Dalton's Bond to be brought into the modern day: his role in assisting Russian officers to "defect" during the cold war or enlisting the help of the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan in The Living Daylights could both provide great jumping off points for his being dragged out of retirement for "one last job". The screenplay practically writes itself!

    In many ways the character is a relic of the cold war so why not lean into that and let Bond be the septuagenarian who has to rely on his wits, spycraft and marksmanship rather than his ability to brawl?



  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭Muller1991


    Now that's something I didn't think I needed to see !!


    At 76 years old though he's probably a bit too old lol



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Timothy Dalton has aged quite well I must say. Loved him in Penny Dreadful.

    Always had a soft spot for his Bond movies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,322 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I'll freely admit that Dalton was always my favourite Bond. He's the only one I ever really found believable as a killer and always found it telling that Brosnan's only good Bond movie (Goldeneye) was origianlly written for Dalton.

    At 76 you couldn't have him brawling in Bathrooms like Craig's Bond but there'd be nothing stopping him still being capable with a sniper rifle, using spycraft, being able to drive like a bat out of hell and as @Homelander points out, he's aged very well, you could still have him seducing women (which would in it's own right be an interesting departure if you used actresses that were age appropriate (plenty of glamourous actresses in their 50's that could still make good Bond Girls: Michelle Pfeiffer, Naomi Watts, Sharon Stone, Rachel Weisz, Helena Bonham Carter etc.)

    I doubt it'll ever be done but if you like the idea of this kind of spy movie you might enjoy The Worricker Trilogy with Bill Nighy as an ageing MI5 officer. They're more political espionage than "super spy". I think they're still on Netflix ("Page Eight", "Salting The Battlefield" and "Turks & Caicos").



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    They should cast Dalton as the new M; that'd be a fun bit of casting and would get the Canon Police in absolute knots trying to work out if that M was/is James Bond as well. Failing that, the same idea only cast Brosnon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭Muller1991


    That would be fantastic ! I think they wanted to do something along the lines of this with Skyfall IIRC the role of Kincade (Albert Finney ) was written with Sean Connery in mind for the part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭j2


    A good shout I heard recently, albeit a bit from left field, would be for Zendaya to take on the role. She has the acting chops and it would take Bond in an interesting new direction. Equally, I could easily see somebody like Daisey Ridley in the role in future years.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I have zero issue with a black man taking the mantle of Bond and that fellow from Bridgerton has read like a good shout, given Idris Elba is too old (and seems too disinterested) ... but casting a woman would be tricky, and that's putting it mildy. Zendaya? Uh, she's an excellent actor, but by no account gives off the kind of physical presence you'd want for a spy who could handle herself.

    If you absolutely, 100% had to cast a female James Bond then one would have to look towards your Charlize Therons and the like - someone who not only has precedent in the action genre but at least looks like she could handle herself.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭Eclectic Econometrics


    If Damian Lewis was 41 instead of 51 I think he would be a shoo-in. To be honest, at 51 I still like him more than 90% of the names being put forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I think that the actor isn't the problem, but more the tone/direction. The Craig moves went the Bond Begins/Bourne gritty route, so where do the new films go? We have always come to expect gadgets, stunts, evil villains and birds from Bond. More of it will be just stale and a deviation won't be Bond.

    Throw a wad of cash at the above idea of Dalton's Bond in the vein of The Dark Knight Returns or give it a cyanide pill. I think Dalton is also Christopher Nolan's favourite Bond.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    I have an inking the next Bond will be a Yankee. The franchise is looking to put as many bums on seats in the USA as they can possibly manage. No real telling who that might be. An action man for sure as it has been going that way for a long time now. Someone with a lean and tough face. think Jason Bourne but in his late 20s.

    Dan.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭wilkie2006


    With Henry Cavill leaving his Witcher role (which he appears to be a great fan of and loved), I think it's very likely that he's been offered - and accepted - Bond.

    Having played Napolean Solo in the 60s-set "The Man from U.N.K.L.E", could we see Cavill as a Cold War-era Bond?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    He left it as he is returning to DC to be Superman again.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    I think the grittiness went out the window after QoS, they remained dark and more sombre but the action definitely became more clean, don't get me wrong some of the action in those movies is spectacular but it's not gritty eg the car chase in Spectre, the silhouette fight in Skyfall. Also the actual plots of Craig's later movie are (under the dark and sombre surface) are as camp and ridiculous as the Moore era. I can maybe see them owning that a little more and stripping back the "dark" veneer which is where I think Jean-Page would do well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭buried


    Best way for this franchise, story-wise, is to go back into the past. Actually utilize the Fleming Books and re-boot his vision of the true James Bond with modern cinematography. Why not? Hollywood is re-booting everything else. Hollywood should grow a brain and also a pair of balls and re-boot these films as close as possible to Flemings original vision and timeline. Make it as politically incorrect as possible. Could save mainstream cinema as we know it.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,569 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'm sorry but James Bond has to be male somethings cannot change, seductive, charm, ladies, action, violence, choice of drink and car etc.,

    If you want a female spy film I'm sure someone could write one

    I've seen names like Richard Madden, Jack O'Connell, Sebastian Stan, Miles Teller and James Norton rumoured also

    Whomever does take over, tough job following Craig even though Casino Royale was his best imho

    Harry Styles or Luke Evans could be a singing Bond 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,266 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    My issue with Page taking the role is not the colour of his skin, it's that whenever i've seen him in something.......... he's just not very good!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,299 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    What about an Irish actor. I could see Ardal O'Hanlon (Despite the Fr Ted) being a good option. Or Michael Fassbender as a more conventional choice.



  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭Muller1991


    Seriously ? Ardal O'Hanlon ?


    Fassbender is probably on the wrong side of 40 now, He would be my preffered choice though.

    Maybe jack O'Connell or Alex Pettyfer would be decent choices.







  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,203 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I think it's time we had anything but a white man in the role. I don't care if he's mixed race or where his family came from. I think he should be British.

    They changed the dynamic long ago that James Bond is one person. It's now the name of the selected agent so he can be any colour or creed.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Zendaya and Ardal O'Hanlon?

    Man I'll be glad when the casting's done - if only so we get past this really weird phase of the spitballing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭Muller1991


    WHo or what said its the name of the selected agent ?


    James Bond will always be James Bond .... 007 on the other hand is assigned to the person who has the code i.e Lashana Lynch's character in No Time To Die.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,266 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Strangely enough, I could actually see Harry Styles in the role. Sans singing of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The main problem with the Craig Bond's is that they pivoted back to Bond cliches, when they should have continued in the direction they were going with 'Casino Royale' and (the absurdly named) 'Quantum of Solace'.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,133 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    If they want to do a female Bond" they will go down the route of a CIA one as in the one Craig met in the last movie Paloma.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,299 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Just saw his age, too old now but he could have been a contender..




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Dougal as a shout for James Bond has to be one of the funniest things I've heard in ages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    If they want to go the female route they should just do what they did in NTTD and have a female 007 but they specifically said "James Bond will return" at the end of that film.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Problem is, and remains, James Bond as a universe isn't interesting or unique enough to shoulder spin-offs. The character is the reason people tune in - not the specifics of the world around him. IMO obviously but James Bond without James Bond isn't much of a hook. We kinda saw that in a smaller fashion with the Bourne series: they tried a sequel without Jason Bourne and audiences went meh, where's Jason?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    Colin Farrell as 007 and Brendan Gleason as M.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Alex Pettyfer is actually a very good wild card shout.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Completely agree with all of that, I was just pointing out that there's an obvious compromise to the "female" Bond debate but it would involve completely shifting the focus of the movies. On one level 007 could become like the Doctor and they have an excuse for changing actors but it's not the same because the Doctor is a character whereas 007 is just a number. I don't think they will or should go down that route and they definitely shouldn't go down the spinoff route.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,450 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    I’ve been reading a few of the comments here and while I’m a fan of the older films particularly Moore, I think if there is to be a reboot or whatever I think I like the idea of maybe going back in time to the cold war era and do it as a period piece. I haven’t particularly enjoyed the Craig movies barring casino royale, it wasn’t Craig it was that they felt too slick and big budget.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    The Russians are the baddies again so perhaps not so much back in time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,299 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Jack O'Connell looks the part.




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    I like this idea, if they actually went down the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy route that could work but I suspect they would revert back to old cliches at the first sign of negative press , just as they did after QoS.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,203 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Your lack of respect for the actor that is Ardal O'Hanlon is not funny.

    He's too old to play Bond but he's an excellent actor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,299 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    He played a detective already in Murder in Paradise. Probably can't see past the 'Fr Dougal' image.

    Too old now anyway unless they want an old Bond coming out of retirement for some last mission?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Ardal would be great Q at this stage



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    We're sorry Mrs O'Hanlon, your son is a very talented boy 🤭



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭Sexual Chocolate


    Mrs Doyle for Moneypenny



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