Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

Yes, that’s just me speculating. I can’t imagine sanctions are going to cut it this time though, accident or not. I suspect it might be a case of more and better equipment being sent to Ukraine.

The Pentagon now stating the reports are still unconfirmed and they’re looking into it.

I live in Warsaw and there's quite a bit of fear going around.

The Russians are claiming it as fake news of course.

I think Putin would probably like NATO to enter the war in some way. He'd rather lose to NATO than lose to Ukraine. He'd like to say, "look I told you NATO was behind all this!". To be beaten by Ukraine (even if aided by some Western countries) is much worse.

The claims of Ukrainan air defense systems came from pro russian account on social media,

Anti aircraft missles don't tend to leave large Crater's on the ground like what was seen in Poland today,

Russia was targeting energy infrastructures all day to day and surprise surprise what lays very close to where these missles hit in Poland an electricity interconnecter...

Yes the details are very important here and they need to be fully confirmed before any action can be taken. However, speaking hypothetically for now, if it was confirmed to be Russian missiles which caused deaths inside Polish territory, a response from Poland would be required. Note I said Poland, any NATO involvement would be depend on how Russia would react which would be a couple of steps further down the line. If Poland were to destroy a Russian artillery unit or two in response to them killing Poles in Poland, I doubt Russia would do much. They can't afford to take on more enemies now, it would be a good time to rachet up the pressure on Putin and see how strong his grip on power is. With his army in retreat, now would be a good time to poke Putin, if the opportunity presents itself.

Russia is constantly targeting civilian infrastructure and a long way from where fighting is taking place. A missile going astray would be no excuse, they shouldn't be doing this anyway. In any case, it depends on the exact circumstances which remain to be seen.

I wonder, does Poland have the capacity to hit russian targets in either the black sea or in the far East?

Only issue I see with Poland reacting in the way you mentioned (and honestly, I'd favour it) is that Putin's lapdog also sits at the polish border so he may be asked to also intervene.

A very dangerous situation.

Nice try but.

No buy ,

Biden didn't say anything about a malfunctioning Ukrainian missle

But the same Reuters news claims a US source said it was two Russian cruise missiles that hit Poland yesterday,

Definitely think there may be more to this ,ie downplaying it to prevent all out war

Even if it's an errant Ukrainian missile it does bring back that two EU citizens were killed on EU soil as a consequence of Russian revanchist military aggression, but that been the way since the Maylasian airline was shot down.

Reports are already out, confirmed by the poles that it wasn't an intentional attack and just a tragic accident.

Nothing from the Ukrainians yet though.

I don't think starting WWIII is a concern here. Russia has proven itself to be militarily inept and have lost huge numbers of trained soldiers and equipment which they won't be able to replace for a long time. They are being beaten by the Ukrainians, there are multiple western countries who individually are far stronger than Ukraine, together they'd destroy Russia.

I think the western powers just want to get to the bottom of what happened and will act accordingly (which is looking increasingly like no action is required). I don't think there worried about Russia, they just don't want to stoop to Russia's level and without justification.

Can see the NATO countries moving up their anti missile systems close to the border.

Where did I oppose Ukraine's policy? I hope they get every single acre back.

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