What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Suicide by Mod is an easy way to get out of the holes they dig.

No but GAGA is a part of it, which is actually very fitting.

They then get to play the victim card and blame good auld "woke"/"censorship"/"cancelled"/"antifa".

Its a well studied playbook they have to feed to perma-victimhood.

The first downside is he'll be in the media 24x7, which is always his goal, and very depressing to consider

The second downside is that his goons and denier pals run the GQP primaries. Don't count him out. But, his nomination would be a gift to the Democratic party.

But this time he wont have murdochs support so the 24x7 media will be mostly negative.

Indeed very low energy, I wonder if its all just his bluff to get assurances from De Santis of a pardon.

If Trump was to win could he hypothetically run again in 2028?

I'm less inclined to think it's a genuine run for the presidency than it is an excuse to keep grifting off the hard core MAGA base.

While I'd like to imagine there are laws surrounding how campaign donations are spent, funnelling that money back into his own pocket is always going to be easy (e.g. the Trump 2024 Campaign purchasing advertising from Trump Jnr Ad Agency Inc or the like)

No.

Ivanka is a big loss. She was the moderate voice in 2016, the way to smooth Trump's edges, especially with women, but also overall.

She played a major part in the idea that Trump in office would be different than Trump in campaign mode, that she would be a sane voice able to direct her dad.

So he is entering into 2024 race in a very different position than 2016, and even 2020. In 2016 he was new, and fresh and tbf his ideas of draining swamp, getting rid of the likes of HC, resonated with people across the board.

He struggled in 2020 because it was clear that he had achieved almost nothing in that respect. Add to that Jan 6th, his constant election denial and the numerous investigations into him both personally and professionally, with the biggest being the Classified Documents issue, and he is facing into a massively changed landscape.

Over the past 6 years Trump has shown little ability to change the message, instead regurgitating the same message over and over again.

I would never count him out, US POTUS race comes down to a relatively small number of swing voters in a handful of states, but I can't see much in the way of advantages that he has.

I watched the speech last night and 15 minutes in to it Bidens Twitter account tweeted out "Donald Trump Failed America" and they had a video ready to go. It juxtaposes the Jan 6th riots with Trump saying he would give the rioters pardons which I thought was neat, that will get heavy use over the next 2 years.

Also right before the speech started we had a Dark Brandon moment, Biden went live to the press pack outside his hotel at the G19 at exactly 1.55am and the networks who were broadcasting Mar a Lago had to switch to what he was saying about the situation in Poland. That then delayed Trumps scheduled 2am start. CNN then cut Trumps speech off at 2.25am and Sky did the same about 5 minutes later. At that point you could see a few empty seats in the crowd and about a third of them were standing up hanging on his every word but the remainder were sitting slumped in their seats. It was real low energy stuff but at least he deliberately avoided the stolen election schtick.

He seemed pissed about Kari Lake, I was surprised he mentioned her given he hates losers but he backed her to the hilt. I reckon she might have been his favoured pick as Vice President nominee and now that plan is in the mud.

Again - Biden was the perfect opponent for Trump in 2020. He is the perfect opponent for Trump in 2024.

The fact is, he is not unlikeable. He is not offensive. You can call him all the names you want but it is impossible to hate him. Even Fox admitted as much recently, IIRC.

Trump can waffle on, but side by side, Trump is a cheap suit and Biden is a polished professional.

Biden has a stack of achievements, Trump has anarchy.

Biden has the complete support of the Dem party and most independents. Trump has his 20% MAGA base.

Let Trump run. Hopefully he does.

I suspect however, he will fade away. He's already courting Q-Anon. If he was a serious contender, they wouldn't be needed.