Qatar World Cup

I never said i was outraged. I said the world cup in Qatar is a farce. Thats all im not outraged because im not shocked. They should never be hosting it everyone knows that. People know complaining is all a bit late.

Qatar should never have got it every knows it. No history, to small etc. Basically Fifa where bought. However nothing was done at the time. Its all about human rights and LGBTQ now. It should never have been about this from the start. It was never should have been in the picture. Wrong climate, size, history etc. Now people speaking out to late on issues that should never have been on the table as Qatar should have been never considered on basic criteria. The winter world cup is a farce. Why did UEFA not stop it. They could have but im sure they wheels where greased as well. I will be watching. It's on now. Just get on with it. Bet during the world cup we shall hear many reports on Qatar human rights, gay stance etc. Bet we will see alot of footage after the world cup of this as well. Fifa are scum they allowed this farce to go ahead. But at the end of the day money always wins. Saint Beckham taking alot of it. Many artists as well. So don't really care now as its on. But Qatar getting a world cup shows anything can really be bought if you have the right amount of money.

...life isnt really this bad, it really isnt!

its a storm in a tea cup at the end of the day, plenty of people will rabbit on about human rights blah blah.....but once the games start most will turn on the tv, crack open a beer and enjoy the show, thats what people do.

No why would that be the case. Are you just arguing for the sake of it. Why would a country like France getting it be a farce in fairness. You actually know what i mean. Qatar should never have got the world cup end off. Many reasons. No history of football, wrong climate, to small a country, not fan freindly etc etc. That's without their human rights stuff and lgbtq stance. France Italy etc have every right to host a world cup. History, stadiums, etc. Qatar getting it is a complete farce. It was bought and that as you know is not right. This is my last post as im getting from your tone your on a wind up mission.

Why should any muslim country play in France after the way Muslims have been marginalised in and by that country.

Why should any Paciific Island team play in France after the enormous damage that country did with its nuclear testing.

Why should any African country play in France after the way African asylum seekers have been treated there.

I am not arguing for the sake of it - I am arguing to show you can put up a moral argument against anything, so why is it that the hordes have descended on Qatar to put the boot in (the only muslim country to ever host the World Cup, despite muslims representing one quarter of the worlds population) and why did they never put the boot into any European country that ever hosted it, or Brazil or USA for that matter.

To your argument:

only countries with 'history' of football should get it - Hello USA 94, or South Africa, or South Korea. This is a really pompous argument - its a World Cup FFS. And even to your point - why is football a global sport ? Because Colonial Nations brought it around the World. One of the few good things they did while on their trail of destruction. And now the likes of yourself saying that same Colonial Nations - France, England, Italy - are the real football nations, with their history of football? That stinks.

doesnt have the right climate - really? In USA 94 Ireland played in near 40 degree heat - forecast for Qatar is high 20s.

My point is not to defend Qatar, but to point out the enormous double standards in some of the arguments against it.

As for your comment on 'wind up mission' - attack the post and not the poster, and all that. I've said from the outset that I wasnt trying to defend the Qatar, but that I was fed up of the hypocrisy of the attacks on this World Cup.

Lads is it me or is the build up to this World Cup totally lacklustre and almost jaded before it even starts??

When I compare to the likes of

Mexico 86

Italia 90

there is hardly any hype or interest in this. All a bit odd.

The anger and disbelief started in 2010. The sports washing disease from the Emirates and Qatar has spread even further than most could imagine since.

Utterly pathetic attempt at deflection and whataboutery.

Legal recognition of same-sex marriage is a very recent development in almost all countries where it's recognised. Only seven years ago Ireland wouldn't have been on that diagram. That didn't mean we were the same in 2015 as Qatar is today in terms of LGBT rights however, what an utterly ridiculous comparison to attempt to make.

I've been to Qatar a couple of times and it is a nice place (especially at this time of year). Particualrly enjoyed the Museum of Islamic Art and the Souq Wakif. But it gets a bit boring after a few days as most conservative places do. It certainly didn't seem to have any restrictions but then - as I said - I didn't ask about the gay bars or alternative and underground hangouts.

If you want to host a world event you have to be open to be inclusive - and that means catering for everyone, even those you don't agree with. And that's not a political attribute, that's a cultrual one. I know many conservatives who are open to alternative liberal groups even if it's not what they want to do. If you're NOT open to being inclusive - and Qatar for it's many qualities is NOT inclusive - then I don't think they should be hosting an event of this size.

The culture - and i mean this on a personal level as well as a national level - will tell you more about a group than their politics.

Size is an issue though - and this is like holding a wrold cup in Leinster. There's already been the issue of not having enough hotel rooms in the country and people paying massively over the odds for a tent or a room on a cruise ship, and I'm not sure how they're going to organse transport when the population of the country jumps by about 30% in a week.