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Gen 5 Prius launched. Won't be selling in the UK.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭User1998


    18,000 CHR models sold in the UK vs only 560 Prius. No wonder they aren’t introducing it. Can’t see it coming here either based on those stats. Pretty much all Prius’s here are Jap imports anyway, so you might see this model make its way to Ireland in a few years in the form of used imports



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,429 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Wow that's really good looking. There best one yet. They should really make it electric or even Hydrogen powered at this stage do.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    That’s a pity. Not a fan of crossovers so would much prefer a Prius than a CHR if I needed a hybrid

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  • Posts: 266 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The really hideous version the made with the weird rear lights probably depressed sales and they expanded hybrid tech to the whole range, many of which were better looking cars.

    Seems unlikely they’ll sell it here if they’re not doing a uk version, but who knows!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,522 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Looks decent, 0-100km/h time of 6.7 seconds is near Golf GTI territory. The colour choice for a launch is rather poxy.

    Won't be sold in Australia either...




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  • Posts: 266 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It would probably make sense to launch an all-electric Prius here though. Hybrid is quite old school tech for eco focused cars at this stage.

    The Prius brand is well established as what should be a market leader in that category. It’s become very much one of many hybrids.

    There was a time back in 2004 or so that the Prius occupied a sort of Tesla like space for a while - cutting edge tech and eco chic all of that.

    If you were doing a launch of high performance EVs from Toyota it would seem to be the brand to use.

    Or use “with Prius technology…” across the range.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,479 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The problem with the Prius is that it started out in life as a stand alone compact car exclusively as a hybrid when hybrid was a new thing, however Toyota already had the Corolla of similar size on offer as a non hybrid. Then the Corolla/Auris spawned into having hybrid powertrains borrowed from the Prius on offer too. Now the Corolla has evolved into a hybrid only yet remains similar in size to the Prius but a good bit cheaper to buy. Given that hatchback sales are in decline across Europe in favour of crossovers and SUVs, Toyota don't need two very similar cars competiting in the same segment. I wouldn't be surprised either if the Corolla's days as a conventional hatchback or saloon are numbered too. They have a fair few compact crossovers and SUVs now on offer with more coming on stream.



  • Posts: 266 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I just wish people would stop calling small hybrid and electric cross hatches like the CHR or the Yaris cross an SUV. There are a lot of genuine issues with urban SUV use and those compact crossovers and crosshatches hatches aren’t in that category but are being rapidly vilified as gas guzzling monstrosities, which they just aren’t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,269 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    I'm not sure anyone thinks a Yaris Cross is a gas guzzling monstrosity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭Miscreant




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭PaulRyan97


    It's unlikely to be sold here I would imagine. Last year they sold 30 Prius to 4000+ Corollas. Can't rule it out though, I wish it would as it seems cool as hell.

    This new model is a radical departure. It does stand out from the Corolla, which is a bit bland and being a hybrid isn't really part of it's indentity.

    The Prius has always been a showcase for fuel economy. I can see this is no different, this is the 5th generation hybrid powertrain that recently debuted on the Corolla Cross. There it achieved surprisingly good economy even on a boxy crossover like that. I'd imagine the Prius' better aerodynamics will help here.

    The fact that's it's going PHEV only in Europe is interesting but if what they say is accurate it should be very impressive. The current Prime has a WLTP range of ~50km and they're quoting at least a 50% increase so it'll have one of the longest EV ranges in a mass market PHEV. That they have also nearly doubled the power output will certainly attract buyers, no more slow boring Prius.

    The solar panel option is always cool too, something I wish more manufacturers would offer. The last gen model could trickle charge incredible slowly off them, think the peak rate was something like 0.16kWh? A few years back they showed off a Prius Prime using new panels capable of up to ~0.85kWh charging, I'd imagine they will end up being somewhat close to that in the production. Even if it's like 0.5kWh peak, you could definitely get some usable range back into your car throughout the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Delboy5




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    Might be true. Right hand drive, instruments already in KMs, no need to make major factory adjustments to the cars in Japan to send them here (other than perhaps the number plate slot on the boot panel and the language on the screens). The price will be the deciding factor though and it would be the first time a Prius is available on the Irish market in a while considering it was "replaced" by the Corolla hybrid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,479 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Every new car instrument cluster is nearly digital now so its easy for the software to be flipped from mph to kph and vice versa. Same thing as switching languages on your laptop or phone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,623 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Nice looking car.

    Is it bigger than the current model?

    Here is one in red -




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    Tell that to my UK import Ioniq. Even Hyundai can't do it with the digital cluster. :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,544 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Imagine how horrendously Toyota Ireland would price it though, they put a huge premium on PHEV models, it would end up at Ioniq5 or even EV6 money. This new model seems to be an upgrade in terms of finish, but if it’s 1.5 times the price of a Corolla hybrid, the trend of nobody buying a Prius will continue.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 702 CMod ✭✭✭✭LIGHTNING


    They have actually made a Prius that doesn't look awful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭JPup


    Should be here middle of next year apparently as PHEV only. If the price is right, it could sell well. 0-100 in less than 7 seconds is interesting for a Prius!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Why?

    Toyota are clearly thinking that neither electric nor hydrogen are going to become major type of powertrain in cars worldwide anytime soon, and they certainly should be respected for that, as thanks to them in 20-30 years we still possibly might be able to have cars at all.

    And BTW - don't get me wrong - I'm not at all against electric cars. I even own and use one currently, but thinking that all cars worldwide should become electric within next decade or so and that its actually really gonna happen, is just silly.



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