Brexit discussion thread XIV (Please read OP before posting)

The fact that Paddy, Jerry and the rest of the EU were annoyed by that stuff was a massive plus for an absolutely brain dead childish wing of the Brexit voter.

All that "they don't like it up em" bullsht.

Yes I know exactly that.

You do know people quote it all the time in England when talking about dealing with Europe don't you.

Ya but the EU won't risk having a country that will vote the disruptive morons.

Interestingly, most of these are virtually unknown as public figures in the UK. The BBC and others only wanted to hear from that right wing agitator Farage.

The labour minister on QT time last night said the Labour Party aim was to make brexit work - not rejoin.

thr Tory panelist’s mantra was brexit wasn’t to blame rather a)covid b) the war in Ukraine. The audience thought otherwise,

i would suggest we have to change that anyway , to have more of a realistic majority voting, as we have enough eu disruption as it is .

its difficult but while it is more complicated with them in the eu, a stronger eu would also have advantages

and the constant fighting while initiated by uk dosnt do anybody good . personally i would take them back without the rebate and would allow them to keep their pound.

i guess it will really depend on how much they learn their lesson from this , and how much they will change , and i think right now the penny is dropping and in a few years they might be ready but i wont hold my breath for it.

Not completely excusing BBC but most of the UKs MEP contingent were hard right Eurosceptics for a long time (certainly over that time period).

(Probably - not sure on this one) before UKIP and then Brexit Party even became a thing?

I would guess an effect of committed single-issue cranks that hated the EU (or had other associated fringe views) being more dominant in the bad turnouts for European elections. Apathy in the wider electorate.

Same thing happens here to an extent. I mean Ukraine invasion has fully exposed that some of our MEPs are every bit as bad if not worse than the worst of the Ukippers/Brexit party hooligans. Someone voted them in and they represent us now to an extent, and get air time.

Well if you don't care enough to go and vote (the British in the main didn't when it came to European parliament elections), those who do vote will decide who your representatives are, and to an extent who gets the soap box or the mic off your state media etc. when EU issues are under discussion.

The extraordinary thing about Farage and UKIP is that I'm starting to suspect he was never even bothered about Europe or the EU. He seems a bog standard right wing populist / agitator like Trump, Bolsonaro etc who latched onto the Europe issue as he felt it might be a way of making himself a popular figure in Britain and make money from it. He never even talks about Europe these days and hasn't for a long time.

Yep, it was a disaster for him. He could carried on for decades with his fake 'the EU is oppressing us and ruining our lives' spiel.

One wonders how Farage ever got the 40 or 50 invites. UKIP was never a "political party" in the true sense of the term - more of a right wing / far right protest group with a self appointed dictator at the top making all the decisions and framing all of the policies.