The big CO2 emitters, who are they?

pedalling the notion that methane from cattle is a big problem is a bigger problem than the methane because other idiots believe it and society is distracted from the actual issues.

we have similar numbers of ruminating animals on the planet consistently, they seem to have become a problem at the same time vegans began their silly notions, funny coincidence

Methane from cows in Ireland is to methane from rice paddies in china.

Yet there's not one environmentalist worldwide calling for a cut in rice production.

Why?

It's the simple reason that one involves animals being directly farmed and killed and the other is animals and organisms being indirectly killed in rice production. But it sounds fluffy as plant production. Pure hypocritical BS.

I've only taken a cursery look on google at the CH4 emissions and these are probably not accurate. One cow is said to emit 99kgs a year but in grass eating it's the lowest and the 99 is probably a US figure eating silage.

One hectare of rice paddy is said to emit 140 kgs CH4 per hectare. And overall it's said to account for 13% of CH4 emissions worldwide.

Bogland like rice paddies with soil in anaerobic conditions is a big emitter of methane to the atmosphere. But because bogs are also classed as sequestering carbon as well they get a pass. Well they don't all get a pass by environmentalists or the accounting system in Ireland. New bogland or rewetted ground will have methane emissions counted in the inventory but existing bogland with associated methane emissions will be off the methane ledger.

Now you can't eat peat nor under new regulations you can't sell it either. It falls down on that front. Now you can eat beef and dairy and you can sell it and contribute to the economy and keep boots on the ground and suits in the offices. But with peat the sequestration is counted and the environmentalists will fight tooth and nail that it's a circular system of emissions and sequestration. Farmers are being shouted down when they try and argue the same is true of meat and dairy. Our peat (soil) is barely given a cursury look in sequestration.

I'll bring it back to rice production. There's zero sequestration in paddy soil only methane emissions and yet the plant foody environmentalists say carry on nothing to see here.

A good author and professor and learned regenertarian in agriculture Dr. David Montgomery links the start of CO2 increases in the atmosphere with the advent of the plough in agriculture especially so the steel mouldboard. This was before fossil fuel use started being burned. Not surprising when soils that can hold 11% organic matter being driven down to 2% by tillage. Ye can work out what means yourselves in quantity of carbon emitted per hectare, overall.

Message.. targeting livestock is too simplistic and does nothing for the environment, has a detrimental effect on soil life, carbon content in soil and will lead to more health problems in people which we now know meat fat is actually beneficial. But obviously not overdone.

Cui Bono.

I know all about it.

Every argument they make is just to undermine animal farming. First it was animal products from Ireland were displacing poor farmers in Africa and driving them off the land. Then it changed tack before the Ukraine war and selling food to poor African countries became a virtue. Influenced no doubt by their masters in the Kremlin using the grain trade as an excuse to appear virtuous and a necessity in people being fed.

Now meat and dairy in Ireland is being attacked with it's a luxurious item of food being sold to premium markets. Go back to when the argument was about displacing african farmers and the attack was it's a commodity and we should be selling to premium markets. Changed pre war. Only thing in common is the need to attack livestock farmers in Ireland with one excuse today and the opposite tomorrow. Only commonality is to keep the pressure on.

Hypocritical pr1cks.

The whole thing is gone completely mad. I was listening to John Gibbons was on Matt Cooper yesterday talking about the world population exceeding 8 billion and that it will be past 9 billion in a few short years. Then proceeded to talk about the biggest issue facing humanity was trying to feed all these extra mouths. Every other week he's on saying cut cow numbers! 😡

You're spot on. One of the big issues facing us as a species is over consumption and waste. The food waste that goes on is criminal. And the fact that there are now more obese people in the world than malnourished should highlight an over consumption of process foods that are high energy and of low nutrient value.

Instead of attacking Irish farmers our government should be running campaigns to limit food waste and to eat local produce, be that meat, dairy, fruit or veg. What's far worse than cows farting is shipping food all over the world using fossil fuels just so Mary down the road can have avocado toast or vegan sausages. We should be encouraging people to go back to simple ways of eating. Think of the tradional roast dinner. No longer very trendy. But everything on the plate is a whole food, and capable of being grown locally. Meat from local cattle, potatoes from local fields, other locally grown root veg such as carrots and parsnips. Simple and boring as it may be it is an environmentally sound meal.

And don't get me started on cheap plastic sh1t. That will kill us all eventually. We're screwed in this world where it is cheaper to buy new goods than fix old ones. Planned obsolence, items designed to be irreparable. All in the name of more sales and perpetual revenue growth for big corporations. It's greed that'll end us eventually, not cow's farts.

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