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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

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  • #4102
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,538 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119890854#Comment_119890854

    It still works today. tomorrow may be a different story.



  • #4103
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119890854#Comment_119890854

    I don't doubt that's possible, and I follow enough programming subreddits and discords to know what people say about working there. But the whole thing is all over the place with the blue ticks etc. I don't see how anyone is part of any "problem".

    My experience using Twitter since he took over is the exact same as it was. Same journalists and tech people posting as they were before.

    It's very disappointing to me personally as I just started a software engineering post-grad and will finish that in a market full of ex-Twitter/Meta etc. developers. Pretty terrible for my future overall but I guess that's the era of free money coming to an end.



  • #4104
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,246 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119890854#Comment_119890854

    Yeah.. It's definitely everyone else and not Musk.

    Musks "Project X" is basically trying to make Twitter into WeChat so it's not exactly some wild innovation.

    WeChat is Twitter, Facebook , Uber , Revolut, Just Eat and Venmo all rolled into one.

    The Problem is is that WeChat only works because it's in China and all it's potential competitors are banned or heavily restricted.

    WeChat is owned by TenCent who have cash to burn by the boat load - They made $35B in profit last year and have been making that kind of money for a decade or more.

    WeChat simply doesn't exist outside of that Chinese Government controlled walled Garden.

    So if TenCent with all their money can't even make the tiniest impact outside of China , Twitter haven't a hope.

    Project X is DOA.



  • #4105
    dasdog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,708 ✭✭✭dasdog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119890854#Comment_119890854

    I would expect the remaining 30% will start to burn out quite quickly and employees will start to quit. They must be outsourcing jobs. You cannot sustain a global platform with so few personnel. I'm sure there was fat that could be trimmed but what he is doing seems insane.



  • #4106
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,246 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119890891#Comment_119890891

    What he's done is akin to being told by your doctor that you need to lose 20kgs and instead of going on a diet and losing that weight over the next few months in a healthy and controlled manner, you chop off both your legs in the car park.

    Sure , you've lost the 20kgs but now what???



  • #4107
    one armed dwarf
    Registered Users Posts: 886 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119890854#Comment_119890854

    But requirements change. Like right now, the requirements are that something needs done about the fact that twitter is hemorrhaging money from fleeing advertisers and Elon Musk is here to fix all that, with his rethought twitter (whatever form it takes). By his own admission it's not possible for twitter to just thread water because of this, and all his plans so far involve developing new features. Massively ambitious features to turn it into a sort of WeChat thing, based on reports. That the current thing hasn't toppled over overnight does not guarantee that it's current urgent requirements are going to be met. Whatever merit there is to Musk's plan, that is the plan and it needs engineers with knowledge of how to build on what already exists.

    Somebody needs to implement the next version of Twitter, but it hasn't been implemented yet. If you just lost a bunch of people who understand how the whole thing operates, why would you not expect that to impact future refurbishment efforts, or maintenance of code quality or its resilience to outside threats?

    These are factors which operate on a longer scale than a mere week.



  • #4108
    OscarMIlde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119888996#Comment_119888996

    Apparently he only has an undergraduate degree in Economics from the Wharton School (where Trump got his degree if you want an indication of the level of rigour involved).

    There have been a few lawsuits against Musk in the past and one thing brought up in them is that his much trumpeted degree in Physics doesn't exist. He enrolled in a degree and then dropped out. His subsequent degree in economics was to regularise his VISA status as he was in America on condition of being a student.

    Stafford have also denied that he was ever registered as a PhD student there despite his claims he began one and left immediately.



  • #4109
    joseywhales
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119890854#Comment_119890854

    You won't see the impact of the layoffs for a year. Easy to maintain business as usual but when higher traffic or new features or outtage events occur, it will start to unravel. Supporting is a lot easier than developing.



  • #4110
    joseywhales
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119890995#Comment_119890995

    Well, physics is pretty hard after all



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  • #4111
    Panrich
    Registered Users Posts: 3,843 ✭✭✭Panrich


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119890691#Comment_119890691

    Exactly this. Documentation is all fine and dandy but it doesn't cover all the bases no matter how detailed it is. As an example, I could write a manual on how to ride a bike but without the experience (often painful), it won't teach anyone to replace me as the resident bike rider.



  • #4112
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,518 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119890854#Comment_119890854

    “The thing still works” That’s hilarious.

    This will give you some idea of the complexities he’s left to manage with the least mobile 30% of his staff. Let’s call it “56 Ways To Lose Your Billions”

    https://twitter.com/mosquitocapital/status/1593541177965678592?s=46&t=y7CydubavGJSE9jsWvTqoQ




  • #4113
    Flinty997
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,730 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Time to get the popcorn and start a book on when it stops.

    Meanwhile, The Washington Post reported conversations with engineers who said there were six critical systems – such as "serving tweets" – that no longer had tech staff to support them. "There is no longer even a skeleton crew manning the system. It will continue to coast until it runs into something, and then it will stop," one said.

    https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/18/twitter_staff_resign_en_masse/



  • #4114
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,246 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119891094#Comment_119891094


    I've experienced most of those over the years.

    Not the genocide and rebellion ones at the end, but all of the IT related ones and they are not fun and if you don't have people who are intimately familiar with exactly how the sausage is made, you are in deep deep ****.

    Removing all that knowledge and experience in one shot never ever ends well.

    I fully expect Twitter to have a significant major outage during the world cup over the next couple of weeks due to a combination of a spike in traffic during a big game and some technical glitch that gets missed in all the current turmoil.



  • #4115
    Flinty997
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,730 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119891386#Comment_119891386

    Is it big enough, and have enough resources and momentum, to take this hit and keep going. I wonder.



  • #4116
    xxxxxxl
    Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119891402#Comment_119891402

    Depends could take something simple in relation to images. Code for JPEG support get corrupted. Would tend to be the most used format most images will just show a bang or unsupported symbol. Sounds easy enough to fix until you try to find it's line in a particular plugin for example. Could go down hill very fast. Once you pull one thread could be done gone Kaput. Even if there are backups you would have to have a very very good filing system to find what plugin failed.



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  • #4117
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119891402#Comment_119891402

    It doesn't take much to crash a web app, they can be quite brittle which is why you have on call engineers and SREs always keeping an eye. And if the expertise isn't there to know where the gaps are, or what the likely culprits are if X goes bang, a simple production issue becomes a crisis cos nobody knows how to fix it fast enough. Time is spent just figuring out what the code does before it can be figured what went wrong.



  • #4118
    herbalplants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119890995#Comment_119890995

    And your point is???

    Plenty of people that I know with Masters /PhD and are beyond average. Or have their ACCA exams and barely able to reconcile cash.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • #4119
    Burty330
    Registered Users Posts: 962 ✭✭✭Burty330


    If Leader says its true , then it must be true

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593455727611215872

    This is a good thing , right?

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593673339826212864




  • #4120
    rogber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭rogber


    It's good fun watching twitter crash and burn under this moron. It really may be joining the likes of MySpace and yahoo as a warning story about how quickly seemingly strong internet companies can go badly wrong



  • #4121
    xxxxxxl
    Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119891932#Comment_119891932

    It was going to crash and burn at some stage He either makes it profitable or it fails. Judging by the job losses there was a very large layer of fat and only a bit of meat.



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  • #4122
    Flinty997
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,730 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892026#Comment_119892026

    That's like cutting the branch you're standing on then blaming the branch when you fall.



  • #4123
    xxxxxxl
    Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892187#Comment_119892187

    That may be true but advertisers kept it on life support. They have pulled now due to a change in management. Shows exactly the reason they were supporting it. They were not worried about 300 troll accounts saying the Nword. There has been no explosion of hate speech or racist sentiments. They are worried that a more balanced amount of content.



  • #4124
    ForestFire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119889882#Comment_119889882

    Well if it's after only putting in a sub 50hr week, I don't see what the issue is!!

    Motivates others to work hard, and rewards those already putting in the hrs with their lives (If they can get in the door!!).


    personally, I think he is a spoofer, and he came into twitter with a sink for a photo op and I presume he has this ready for the impending exit photo...


    image.png




  • #4125
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,028 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892026#Comment_119892026

    Was there's large layer of fat. Problem with trimming fat make a mistake a lot of muscle can go as well.

    Most software and telco's can coast along for weeks or even months. Most work with minimum staff over Christmas with a few staff on call to put on a couple of Band-Aids if there is a cut but with the ability to call in a lot of help if there is a serious issue.

    How many time have we seen real issues with software, remember Ulster banks melt down in 2012. BOI had an issue with it mobile app last year. The attack on the HSE in 2020.

    Ten biggest last year

    https://www.testdevlab.com/blog/10-biggest-software-bugs-and-tech-fails-of-2021


    Slava Ukrainii



  • #4126
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,071 ✭✭✭Christy42


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892282#Comment_119892282

    I suspect they are more annoyed that Twitter allowed troll accounts to impersonate them and even severely dropped the stock price of one company? Would you be too keen to support that. Even if they weren't targeted it could cause many to scroll past their own adverts if they believed it to be a troll. Finally you have the issue of giving money or signing an agreement with a company you may suspect is about to go broke, you may be on the hook for more of the advertising cost than you get in return.


    They did pull out due to a change in management and it was because they didn't want to be the ones throwing money into a lost cause as opposed to anything to do with balance.



  • #4127
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,603 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119891932#Comment_119891932

    Twitter was never a strong internet company, that's why most consider Musk to have grossly overpaid for it.



  • #4128
    Flinty997
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,730 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I don't think it's that simple. They were losing the users that were creating most of the content.

    https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-where-did-tweeters-go-twitter-is-losing-its-most-active-users-internal-2022-10-25/

    Nsfw content is less attractive to advertisers. You could argue Elon encouraged this narrative and thus set it up for his takeover. He may have done a better job than he intended. He's now throwing good money after bad trying to save the ship he torpedoed.

    Social media is being choked by low quality content.



  • #4129
    xxxxxxl
    Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892413#Comment_119892413

    Oh I take your point If they actually fired the meat like most of all the Engineers and Software devs. But you don't need stuff like human rights departments. Things tend to cost along as you say due to software tools Updates Plugin updates are not done. This is why the engineers and software devs are so important. You don't hit auto update in the real world outside your home system. You need these teams to pour over the new release read the documentation and see if it could break something. Ofc as people have pointed out large deployed systems with multiple layers can just fail over time Could be as simple as knowing there is a memory leak in a particular plugin for example. There will be a guy who knows that and know the plugin will stay stable for 1 month say. Just spit balling there. It's incredibly complex. And also you need to remember Sneaky software developers tend to design in things they only can fix easily and keep the old job. It's generally not malicious but good for them for job stability.


    Like take something that I mentioned about Jpegs. The code/plugin dealing with this will probably not be called Jpeg. It will be a name a guy/girl who created it calls it. There are tones of stuff like that not written down Someone also pointed that out people tend to hate documenting stuff. It's a pain in the A*s. It also means you could be replaced if it's actually really specific and any dev could do.



  • #4130
    Flinty997
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,730 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Documentation isn't critical if it's written properly.

    He cut the staff so fast there was no time to work out who was critical and who wasn't. Which is why he had to ask some to come back.

    It might not be possible to recover from that.



  • #4131
    xxxxxxl
    Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892435#Comment_119892435

    I dunno did that airline get a lot of free publicity from the ahem woman on a desk with a plane. 😁



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  • #4132
    xxxxxxl
    Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892466#Comment_119892466

    I know but it's not like Microsoft releasing updates. Twitter will be completely different Documentation in Twitter would and could cost you the job. There would be very little appetite to write clear concise documentation. You could turn a 10 person team down to two in some cases if that was done. There is a certain amount of bloat due to people wanting to keep a job.



  • #4133
    Flinty997
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,730 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    In my experience documentation is the exception rather than the rule.



  • #4134
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dorsey still has his share, along with some of the other guys I believe. Musk has been CEO of other companies with very important software development, ie. Tesla and SpaceX, and he was a part of that PayPal thing way back. Twitter, or FAANG in general is famously overstaffed. They're all laying people off, and Twitter had big layoffs planned before Musk got involved.

    It isn't outside the realms of possibility that he has his own ideas about how many people should be required to work on a system like Twitter. And it isn't outside the realms of possibility that people like Dorsey or previous top brass had an idea of what to cut already.

    I honestly don't expect any massive downtime or anything because of anything except sabotage. You can surely keep a service online with a thousand staff, and a bunch more who would be happy to sign up and work there, even if it's super hardcore and you'd have to work as hard as a nurse for 150k.



  • #4135
    xxxxxxl
    Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892527#Comment_119892527

    Is kinda my whole point their not actually developing the software apart from their end. Say Microsoft releases an update even with their due diligence once it's out in the wild issues can occur. Using Microsoft as an example Could be Linux, Unix anything you want. Devs on there end if not fired will be able to fix it.



  • #4136
    Jim2007
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892026#Comment_119892026

    Neither you nor Elon have a clue as to whether there was or was not fat! It is clear at this stage that this clown had not got a clue who he was firing, what they actually did or what the consequences were, so to draw the conclusion then that there was fat because of the sacking does not stack up.

    I’ve this a few times now, it ends up taking a couple of years for a company recover from the so called fat cutting exercise all the time pretending they did not make a mistake. But Elon does not have the time and the financiers will soon start to call in their markers before he looses much more of their money. The question is just how much collateral did he put up and what will he be left with.



  • #4137
    xxxxxxl
    Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892564#Comment_119892564

    Elon never fired anyone personally he would have looked to HR asked and also taken into account the fat being cut from the other guy. All tech companies at the moment are shedding staff. Twitter was a none viable company some seem to forget that. it was propped up by advertising that liked how the platform was run nothing more. It will fail or survive it's that simple.



  • #4138
    Commoner
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭Commoner


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892442#Comment_119892442

    Twitter should re-instate legacy mode because javascript can really slow down a few functions if a tech device is not 8 out of 10. Legacy Mode is where javascript is temporarily disabled or in mobile mode.



  • #4139
    xxxxxxl
    Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892582#Comment_119892582

    Well I'm no software dev I would have assumed a migration to C# ? well back in the former company.



  • #4140
    Davis Salmon Scumbag
    Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Davis Salmon Scumbag


    Lol

    https://twitter.com/DeathMetalV/status/1593697486228623367




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  • #4141
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892475#Comment_119892475

    That's not how documentation works. It doesn't exist to replace a job, it exists to ensure the company can work on and understand any given piece of software, so it's not some black box at the whim of a tiny subset of employees; indeed good documentation can help its own author, given 12 month later a developer may not remember what or why they even wrote the code that way. Been there. But it doesn't get written so "great, we don't need those developers anymore". It's not a manual that gets written, it's a guide.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892582#Comment_119892582

    JavaScript isn't the big hog it used to be and too much of the internet, including twitter I imagine, is built on JavaScript such that the site literally wouldn't load without it. Slow we sites tend to be bad servers or blasted assets. See Boards. Ain't the JS making it slow, it's shonky servers and the bajillion uncompressed assets being loaded.



  • #4142
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,314 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892572#Comment_119892572

    They reportedly fired the entire SRE team in the first round, nobody with a basic clue about software development, release management and large platform maintenance would have allowed that to happen. SRE are the team who literally are responsible for what you've been fudging along trying to describe regarding release management, they check the new release builds to make sure it wont break anything. Now explain please how Musk and his team knew exactly what they were doing by firing all the bloat and fat when that includes SRE.



  • #4143
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    It will be interesting to see what Musk does when he finally kills Twitter in the coming days and weeks where will he then go after losing his biggest public social media self promotion tool where will he have access to post nonsense and memes daily that show he is the smartest man in the history of the world to his fanboys and the rest of th world and it media.

    Will me move to Facebook/Meta/Instagram/Pintrest/Tumblr/ maybe however I doubt they will work the same way he likes spout his 140 charcater nonsese.

    Maybe Tiktok and he can make videos instead of using words and memes that could be fun actually seeing him breaking down while doing a shuffle dance.

    I guess he could go where the other big self important megalomania who like to spew nonsense went where he would have the freedom of speech he wants Truth Social. The Donald would gladly sell him Truth Social I suspect for a lot less than $44B.



  • #4144
    tara73
    Registered Users Posts: 2,343 ✭✭✭tara73


    why can it not be as simple as that: he only bought it to bring it down, eliminate Twitter. He has already a new concept and he didn't want to spill the beans about it and he just needs or wants 'fresh' people for that, not anybody stuck in the old game, be it emotionally or professionally. And not even a surprisingly new concept or way to go in the big money world I would say...



  • #4145
    AMKC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,349 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892710#Comment_119892710

    guess he could go where the other big self important megalomania who like to spew nonsense went where he would have the freedom of speech he wants Truth Social. The Donald would gladly sell him Truth Social I suspect for a lot less than $44B.


    Well it looks like Musk is letting the Twits decide if that Clown Trump should be allowed back on the platform,

    https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593767953706921985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1593767953706921985%7Ctwgr%5E41b86473dd695b70d3c2abe8676065c1b2462a22%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Felon-musk-asks-twitter-users-to-vote-on-reinstatement-of-donald-trump-12750696


    Here ou go. I have voted. Do vote and get as many people as you can to vote too.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • #4146
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1593619483968479232


    It's actually a good point.



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  • #4147
    HalloweenJack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,261 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892626#Comment_119892626

    Out of curiosity, has he actually unbanned anyone?

    From what I can see so far:

    - he paid more than he should have

    - he has banned some users (as someone who was expected to champion free speech, this raises questions)

    - he has made a total mess of the verification system (paying for a better level of service isn't necessarily a bad idea but don't mess with the original system, bring in a new one to complement it and make it more atttactive)

    - he has lost advertisers because of the uncertainty about how he's running things (of course he got it out there that this is because of activist pressure - is activist what we're calling investors these days?)

    - he seems to have sacked large numbers without much thought and is now threatening the remaining workers if they don't go into overdrive to solve a problem of his own making (which would not inspire confidence in any workplace)

    - he's also causing the Tesla stock price to go down (I imagine Tesla investors who don't give a crap about Twitter are rightly pissed off that his outside antics are affecting their investments)

    Did I miss anything?

    If his goal was to destroy Twitter all along, that's fine. It's his company, he can do what he likes. However, it should be a concern for several reasons.

    First, for the people who are working for Twitter and people who are interested in decent working conditions. Of course, in a takeover, there'll be a change in workplace culture but isn't this done over time? Not with a wrecking ball and no plan. We shouldn't be championing the actions of someone who's enforcing exhaustive working conditions and threatening termination for those who don't sign up to the master plan.

    Secondly, it actually raises concerns for free speech. If someone has enough money, can they just repeat what Musk has done? There's a media compamy saying things they don't like? Simple: pay over the odds for the company and then deliberately crash it into the ground. Problem solved. It will also make media companies think twice about what they're doing. It used to be that media companies just had to worry about being sued but this could be showing a way for other billionaires to stiffle criticism.



  • #4148
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,216 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892783#Comment_119892783

    In recent years he's gone from being a relatively popular tech entrepreneur, to the most annoying alt-right edgelord.



  • #4149
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892806#Comment_119892806

    I used to like him for being the King Nerd who made a rocket company. And his leadership did drive forward the normalisation of electric cars. But as you say he showed himself a vaguely right wing edgelord and all round díckhead who increasingly made ludicrous projects like that hyperloop boondoggle, calling a rescue diver a paedophile, and buying twitter for the lols. To name but three. That Las Vegas car tunnel was an especially weird flex. I suppose being a sociopathic billionaire gave him the kind of safety net that let him make these big swings without worrying about the consequences, but Twitter feels like chickens coming home to roost. His eccentric style isn't working, and all the blather in the world can't paper over the realities of running a webapp company, and how one gets that wrong



  • #4150
    Burty330
    Registered Users Posts: 962 ✭✭✭Burty330


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892806#Comment_119892806

    Exactly. He's hated because he shifted slightly to the centre. Classic -if you're not with us you're against us- mentality.

    On the flipside there's not a peep anywhere on this site about Sam Bankman committing billions worth of stock fraud because he has a get-of-of-jail free card by being a massive donor to the Democratic party.



  • #4151
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,216 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119892856#Comment_119892856

    He's going more fringe which is why that fringe are suddenly leaping to adopt him and defend him. If he flipped the other way, they'd turn on him like a pack of dogs, putting him in their Clinton/Soros/whatever conspiracies.

    All that political nonsense aside, he's just become more of a twat.

    Colin McGregor used to be highly popular as well, some people just turn into egotistical twats.



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