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Autumn Internationals 2022

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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,236 ✭✭✭fitz


    NZ already on the plane home in this second half, but England have really made the most of the yellow card.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,449 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    He's done excellently to get that last score down, really looked held up. Raynal did well to see it too.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    What a finish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Shehal


    WTF is happening!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Can’t believe the poms settled for the draw!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭A-Train


    Such a poor second half from NZ, credit were it is due to England to keep gong and rescue the draw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,693 ✭✭✭DJIMI TRARORE


    Some comeback at Twickenham,extra man making the difference,25 each ft



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    England were on for the win there I thought, NZ were on the ropes. Wrong option kicking it out imo.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,236 ✭✭✭fitz


    Yeah, show a bit of ambition, like. Still had the extra man



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Bizarre! England had a 14 man NZ with no SH on the rack and decided against having a go. England looked much more dangerous when Farrell started stepping in a first receiver with Smith floating behind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭OldRio


    I have to say Johnny May is a brilliant open field runner.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Shocking decision settling for the draw, man down, momentum, had the ball in hand, didn’t even try, crowd on their feet Unbelievable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Unbelievable - incredible loser mentality to kick that out at home against 14 men. Would be absolutely raging if we did that in those circumstances. Possibly that shows the difference between us and England though. I'd be amazed if we kicked it out in that position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    magnificent last 10 from England their best all autumn. Then smith kicks it out. Au revoir to one of the most average AB seasons ever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,546 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    New Zealand can't really complain either. Don't think they've played well this tour. So many unenforced errors and ill discipline.

    Similar to England really. Couldn't catch a cold for 60 minutes and came to life near the end.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers




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    Crazy decision really, it feels worse in some ways then when we were getting hammered before the last ten (English here)! I had accepted we had been well beaten but to then get back and not even have a go, disappointing.

    You would think both teams will be better this time next year but it’s a big jump to Fra, Ire and probably SA too!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,546 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Every game today has been a bit mental.

    Italy putting it up to South Africa for 50 minutes; 12 man Argentina scoring a try against Scotland; Georgia beating Wales in Cardiff; England being crap for 60 minutes but okinv a draw out of their hoop.

    Hopefully Ireland's game is slightly calmer fare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Just making a list of the number of fixtures played by different teams this Autumn internationals. If I included a + number its because there was an extra non cap game. I may have missed some extra games.


    Interesting to see 3 big Southern Hemisphere teams all playing 2 or 3 extra games out of the window (which they get income for).

    Australia 5+3

    New Zealand 4+2

    South Africa 4+2

    Ireland 3+1

    Italy 3+1

    Wales 4

    England 4

    Scotland 4

    France 3

    Japan 3

    Argentina 3

    Fiji 2+1

    Samoa 3

    Tonga 3

    Post edited by CIARAN_BOYLE on


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Great to see sexton out, hopefully its nothing serious but it proves yet again that we cant field our best team against SA in the group game next year.

    Hopefully crowley takes his chance, there is a starting 10 going abegging in Munster and there will be a green one in 12ish months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Pivac should be shown the door! Wales are a borderline tier 2 team now. We are fortunate to be facing them 1st in the 6N.

    England should have won. They are braindead! Jones is getting very little out of them.

    Italy are getting better! They are on the right track.

    SA will be fairly happy. 2 close losses to the world's #'s 1 and 2, despite not having Pollard.

    Oz are a physical side. Discipline is poor. They could make a charge next year.

    Delighted for Georgia!

    Pumas are completely indiscipled and easy to antagonize. Cheika will be livid.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭TRC10


    I love how everyone is jumping at the chance to take the piss out of Wales, when they've still had a better last 4 years than us. They've won two championships and a been to a world cup semi final (and will probably deliver when it matters and go further than us in France next year).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,885 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    I love how you can ignore the obvious just to take a contrarian view.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭TRC10


    It's not contrarian, it's factual.

    1 GS, a 6N Championship and a RWC semi final > 0 trophies and out in the quarter finals.

    But sure let's act all superior because they lost a meaningless November test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Shehal


    I wonder will those critical of Ireland this autumn be doing the same for France who had an identical fixture list and got identical results across the 3 games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Wales have been really off. There's little depth. The grand slam was lucky as they beat us when we were down to 14 for most of the match. Scotland were also down a lad during their match. Fair plaY to Wales though, they got it done.

    I just can't see them being contenders. PIvac has not done well with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    If the response to social media opinions is death threats then the problem is social media.



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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,618 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Wales didn't win the slam that year (2021). They won it in 2019.

    But the fact they keep performing better than Ireland despite their obvious management problems and small player base is really to their credit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    They have finished 5th 3 times in the last 5 years. How exactly are they performing better than us? They have zero consistency. They can perform well at times but have absolutely not performed better than us.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Wales last proper six nations win was 2019. 2021 was an anomaly in my opinion, they rode to victory on a wave of red cards.

    Wales were never going to implode over night, but the decline is becoming really noticeable now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Shehal


    Wales winning that 6N was probably the worst thing that could have happened to them as all it was was massive paper to put over the cracks and ensured there was probably no chance of the changes they needed made happening before the 2023 RWC.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Yes, because when something happens it’s only ever the fault of one thing or person. It’s never any more complicated or nuanced than that. Yep. Anyway, I’m done. This is just farce at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    For sure, it's a farce when the truth is put right in your face. Good luck.



  • Registered Users Posts: 190 ✭✭tmc1963


    You clearly don't watch any Top14 to be spouting this out-dated nonsense.

    Like something off Walesonline where they can't bear the thought that anyone else in the NH would dare to have a proper 10.

    Russell is clearly the best 10 in the NH (if not the world) at the moment.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,618 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Two 6n wins since we last won one, more than any other team. History doesn't care about second place or nearly winning. If it did, their narrow defeat in the WC semi would be worth a mention.

    We have this misplaced superiority complex when it comes to Wales but they beat us in Cardiff every time and their historical record blows ours out of the water.

    They won't win the WC but I'd bet up to four pounds they'll go further than us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    I'd bet up to four pounds they'll go further than us.

    They have a much easier draw so that's a pretty safe bet



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  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Rugbymad2020


    Is that going to be ur go to excuse when u get knocked out the WC early.u have to beat what’s in front of u.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    It's just a statement of fact. The top three teams in the world are in one side of the draw, plus the rugby world's largest consumer of performance enhancing drugs, it'll be tough.



  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Rugbymad2020


    U really are a clueless idiot.but whatever helps u sleep at night.going to be so much fun watching u go home early and all the excuses that will follow



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    It will be more fun watching Rassies video meltdown blaming anyone and everyone except himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    I know, right?

    We'll probably come up with some outlandish nonsense about a global conspiracy against us and our coach will get his second ban in two years for his insane ramblings, and everyone will laugh at us and hate us in equal measures, and legions of deeply, deeply unpleasant people will launch an online hatred campaign against the referees.

    Sounds like us alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Clearly he is. Its a travesty that he wasn't awarded player of the year over the weekend, and the fact that he was the only OH nominated shows how he is clearly the best around.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭TRC10


    How many "easier" draws have we had over the years and shat the bed?

    Say what you will about Wales, they turn up when it matters. When we do the same, maybe then we can slag them off.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don't understand your point with this. Wales rugby in general is in a state of borderline crisis. Their domestic teams are probably the worst they've been in the past 25 years or more. Their attendances for domestic rugby are on the floor. Their underage structures look under pressure.

    They do have an uncanny ability to be better than the sum of their parts at international level, and a large part of that has been some great coaching over the years, but would you really think there's any structural part of their rugby set up and infrastructure that we should be looking to aspire to?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    I'm not sure what your point is, other than to sh*t all over Ireland again.

    Wales lost to GEORGIA at HOME on Saturday. I think it's reasonable to say that's a bad result for Welsh rugby, regardless of what happens at the World Cup.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Shehal




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Have to say I do worry at the state of rugby in Wales at the moment. Yeah they did win the 6N in 2021 but there's a bit of papering over the cracks with that win. You can only play against what's in front of you but they do have the bizarre statistic of their opposition receiving a red card in 3 of the games. POM after 14 mins in the first game and Fagerson after 54 mins in their second game as they won by 6 against us and by 1 against Scotland.

    They only have one team in the HEC this year and that's because the shield winners get a spot, otherwise they wouldn't as Ospreys finished 9th last season. There's a good chance this will happen next season too.



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