ESB eCars

My own personal experience - quite a lot. I am away for work around the country every week doing 40K km annually and 100% reliant on the public charging network daily.

My experience has been since the end of lockdowns and society reopening, Dublin can be very difficult during the day to get a charge without incurring distance or encountering traffic.

But I make it work just like you do - we manage it. But most people in this country do own an ICE and have never had to really 'manage' filling up the tank. I have co-workers who all have got diesels in the last 12 months because they can travel twice as far as me and never think twice about where they are filling up. Time is money for them.

Everyones circumstances are different. But if you cant access home charging then I suggest this is a much bigger impediment than the price of electricty (which like fuel, is variable).

Correct. It will improve with demand from people who need it daily, combined with good policy like we have seen in the UK.

I think dynamic pricing would be a very good idea... AC22 pedestals - 40% cheaper from 11pm-6am to encourage their overnight usage.

Tesla do peak (4pm - 8pm) and off-peak (8pm-4pm) rates now in Europe.. the other providers here should be looking to do similar... Taxi drivers would be all over off peak rates..

and we end up with 'hubs' in random towns around the country that have 2 CCS plugs, but only 1 CCS plug if a Leaf is using the cheaper 50kW unit...

yeah, I shouldn't have used the term dynamic, rather peak/off peak would be good... mirroring domestic day/night rates with perhaps an hour shaved off at either end

Definately - we need a proper targeted plan that is well funded. I've posted this before, but I like the format that the NSW State Govt in Aus has developed their EV plan.

Very simple & clear, backed by AUD$149m (€96m) in funding.

Yes. If done right it could be great but instead it's done pathetically. Typical Irish nonsense.

It wasnt a 12k drop though. It was a drop of 7k by the manufacturer, with the taxpayer funding the rest. Now, I dont think it was needed personally as there is so much demand pent up but obviously Tesla has more data and insight into their pricing than I have available to me!

For AC yes, and for 50kW maybe

Not sure about HPCs at motorway services, drivers don't really pick and choose when to arrive there

In fairness it made sense for years. And encouraged the development of RES.

From the article

I don't know anyone that is paying the full standard rate for home electricity, even on with a standard meter.

To be fair the article is accurate. Its rare to see journalists getting their kW's and kWh's and facts and figures all correct. I don't think there is anything factually incorrect in there?

It does, however, suspiciously not give any worked examples of what it costs at home on night rate which makes it a biased article. One small reference to it was given...

"(It’s worth pointing out that night rate charging, if your supplier offers it, will reduce that cost by quite a bit.)"

He gave loads of worked examples but decided not to show a worked example for the majority of people who own an EV! 😏

e.g. For myself, I pay 7.9c/kWh at night so his example would cost me €1.34/100km versus his ~€7 example. Now that is a massive saving, but that doesn't make for a good click bait article! :)

It may well be cheaper to charge at home vs diesel.

But what action needs to be taken to allow those who can't charge at home to transition to EVs cost effectively.

Also to compensate high mileage drivers for time and cost of charging EVs on the road.

"Charge at home" is all lovely but reinforces perception amongst ICE drivers that EVs aren't fully usable cars

Congrats on the improvement in your life and sorry for assuming you were a silver-spooner. My point is that those struggles you had are the same struggles being felt by a lot of our population right now, do you not care?

Not sure what you're referring to exactly?

Yes. Because this is a thread about esb ecars. I also ignored Tesla, Ionity and Easygo pricing in my calculations for the same reason