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Well if you don't increase the numbers, how do you propose to increase active, operation, visible policing?

The paperwork is increasingly a requirement demanded by all sorts of oversight bodies and statisticians - cancel that? They're not in stations glued to computers because they think it's great fun. Good luck trying to do that.

Stop gardai taking leave?

Reduce the specialised units and put them all back on the beat? So less dedicated, trained response to domestic violence, for example, or no armed backup for all these new uniformed members.

Stop gardai getting sick or injured?

It absolutely is (mostly) a numbers game, and until they get the numbers up things won't get better.

And looking at the way things are going with recruitment and retirements/resignations, things aren't getting better any time soon.

I could explain how statistically comparators work, but there is no point is there? You have just made your mind to self fear monger?

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Heard the usual stuff from local representative this morning - terrible etc but we need more funding in the area blah blah.

You don't need funding in order for people to behave in a civilised way. Scum will be scum and just throwing money at them solves nothing.

District offices etc. are already civilianised and handling adminstration duties in districts, the only place Gardai are still in offices are in the front office of a station.

There still has to be a Garda member in the station to deal with prisoners etc. It's not removing any paperwork from a Garda in reality.

All a civilian staff member would be doing is answering the phone, most of the paperwork completed by Gardai is in reference to incidents they attended, actions they took or reporting of incidents for transfer to specialist units etc. Civilian staff members won't be able to do that.

After Gardai attend incidents they've to create the corresponding Pulse incident by phoning a civilianised incident creation unit..the only problem being you could be on hold 30 minutes waiting just for the call to be answered nevermind the incident be created.

The idea that there are these reserves of Gardai in offices only waiting to be tapped is, again, nonsense.

The whole organisation needs a review again from the bottom up by the Garda Inspectorate. Talk to Gardai on the ground without supers and chiefs looking over their shoulders to hear what is being said, listen to the issues they have doing the job and make it that the findings of the review are binding, no more suggestions and recommendations to be swatted away by the government.

How many times have the Inspectorate and the Policing Authority told the Commissioner and the government that Garda drivers all have to be trained...and nothing is ever done about it.

Most Gardai driving patrol cars can't use lights and sirens even responding to a call. They could be getting roared at down the radio by colleagues looking for assistance and if they turn on the lights to get through a junction to assist them or someone that needs help and the job finds out..they could be disciplined or not be allowed drive again. That's the reality. It wouldn't be tolerated in any other emergency service but for some reason Gardai have to accept it.

They have no union's, they've representative bodies mainly for pay and conditions negotiations.

Gardai have no height or other physical limitations as regardless hiring… you can literally be 4’2” and weigh 45 kilograms and be hired as a Garda. it’s seen as discriminatory to have limits.

a blind person cannot get a driving licence.

But there is a super strict medical for anyone wishing to get a pilots licence. A class 1 medical…

the NYPD have height restrictions… but even they are toying with these being removed…. Why ? Discriminatory apparently.

by this logic I should be able to represent Ireland at the Olympics… I won’t reach any of the qualification times / standard for any events but I want to go, if I can’t… discrimination.

The world is *#&#€@

if I need to call the Gardai because of some break in or whatever… I don’t care who shows up… what gender, what, age, what sexuality, what nationality but…. You better be of the ability to do the job, physically, emotionally, every way.

the Garda was useless.

You really think they have a choice?

The fantasizing on this thread is truly eye-opening!

Names have been released. Two grown men that really should know better.

The last paragraph....why would they be disciplined for turning on lights going through a junction.

You can represent Ireland at the olympics no matter what size you are, you simply need to achieve the qualification standards. In the exact same way that you can enter the gardai. You simply meet the qualification standards, no matter what size you are.

What are you talking about?