Was/is the protesting at East Wall Racist?

You will never solve anything, and never be happy, unless you make an attempt to understand the system as it is. You blame politicians for people getting "past the airport" when there is nothing they can do about that. Nothing. Anyone can present themselves at immigration and claim they are seeking International Protection and they have to be processed. The person sitting at the desk will not have the authority or the resources to summarily process them on the spot. Even if they could, there would have to be a right of appeal.

Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos could both land private jets at Dublin Airport tomorrow and say they wanted to claim asylum. They would have to be processed. Until you understand they system, all you are doing is creating distraction from things that might actually be done by shouting about things which cannot be changed and blaming people who cannot change them.

If they have no travel documents, can they be deported within 24 hrs?

Second question: if I tear up travel documents, and arrive at Immigration in JFK airport NYC, or Toyko, Japan, what happens to me?

It sounds terrible but a direct provision centre popping up near my family home would likely affect how safe I felt in the area. Having said that, I wouldn't be a NIMBY and I certainly wouldn't subject the asylum seekers to further trauma by protesting outside of their accommodation.

No. It is prima facie illegal for people to travel on fake documents. But there is an exception whereby it is legitimate to travel on fake documents for the purpose of getting somewhere to claim asylum.

Of course, people will take advantage of that. But the reason why that allowance is there is legitimate. So in order for that allowance to remain, you have to accept that you will get bogus applications. The same goes for people presenting with no documentation.

If you arrive at JFK with no documents, you would be treated more or less the same as any person coming into Dublin with no documents. You would be returned. UNLESS you try to claim International Protection. Same as in Dublin. (As an aside, the US is a little different as they tend to effectively have veto power in the Conventions they are signed up to.) The airline that brought you may get fined.

of course it was along with all such similar protests.

little racists whinging over some brown faces in their area, thinking they have any right to be "consulted" on anything, they don't quite rightly.

the building is an ESB building as i understand, no longer in use and would just be left to rot otherwise, so may as well use it for a benefit.

i think there was a similar protest down in wicklow as well, wonder was that surrounding the same hotel as last time, a hotel which will not reopen as a viable business again and which would also be left to rot otherwise.

I think Leinster House, perhaps the FF, FG and Green HQs too. Their arrogant incompetence is certainly worthy of protest. This protest looks like it is targeting foreign nationals. Different issues like the severely inflated rental market, housing shortages, homelessness and other often interconnected issues are just symptoms of a disease which could be called incompetent governance. Protesting at Leinster will now a hate crime (the matter is still vague and ever shifting so no deboonking needed) under upcoming legislation, unless the protest by one of the approved government quangos or charities.

The Government played right into Far-Right hands by bussing people in under cover of darkness with no prior consultation.

Of course it was racist.

The fact that a few Gemmaroids spoke at a microphone is neither here nor there either.

What makes it wholly racist is the narrative from all the public reps like Councillors Ring and O'Shanahan that the local community "weren't consulted" about a group of foreign men being moved into a facility in their area, to simply keep a roof over their head, is simply dog whistle prejudice, based on race, religion and Country of origin.

There's no question the Government are managing immigration very badly, but that wasn't the thrust of the protest last night, it was very simply 'get/keep them out of here'

To immigrate legally to this country you need proof of your identity, a paper trail which links back to your country of origin which will have records of you. An identity and all the history that comes with it.

People who arrive in dublin on a plane with no documents are neither vetted nor can we even establish an identity for these people. They could be anyone, have done anything, and we have no idea who or what or why. Unlike citizens of this country who have an identity and a history, and records here. Unlike legal immigrants here, who have records in their own countries and here through GNIB, revenue and other bodies.

These people being dumped in east wall have no established identities, records or anything. In many cases their age isnt even established. They are not vetted, and it is in no way comparable to those who legally immigrated here, or are citizens here.

There already are pathways from all those countries, non-EEA citizens can apply through critical skills employment permit. Many people do, and come here through that permit pathway.

There is no excuse for trying to game the asylum system to immigrate here. Asylum should be reserved for people actually in need and actually in danger, not poor people just looking for a better life.