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N8/N25/N40 - Dunkettle Interchange [open to traffic]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭cork_south


    It will be difficult to guage the change tonight, there's a broken down lorry blocking traffic coming out of the tunnel northbound for the last 20 mins on the webcam.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Yeah, tonight was a disaster but a very bad example. The rain didn't help. Rather an awful commute all said and done, I ended up ploughing through the city.


    We'll try again tomorro! Stop crashing and breaking down!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Hibernicis




    Took a few screen grabs of the delay N40N to M8N at different stages on Monday morning.

    Sailed through with no stops at 11:30. Fascinating watching some of the lane changes, especially the last minute ones. People can be so incredibly stupid.


    Noticed a few redundant signs (e.g. this one at the tunnel entrance) although I doubt that it was actually contributing to the confusion.




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    Still cars constantly in the wrong lanes this morning especially those driving in the overtaking lane and trying to cut in after going through the tunnel. Causing chaos at tunnel exit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭cork_south


    Yeah looks bad.

    10km tailbacks in Midleton direction.





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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,274 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    All approaches under pressure this morning. Bit of a mess. Idiots cutting lanes at the last minute is a big problem.




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    I can pretty much guarantee the cutting lanes is mostly deliberate now to skip queues.


    Anyone else notice that one of the westbound gantries on the N25 has both "Cork" and "City Centre" on it... that one irritates!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Yep a lot of people are arseholes and the standard of driving in this country continues to decline. Not surprising really given how little policing there is of the country’s roads.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    6:30 this morning, coming from tunnel to N25, about six cars ahead of me, and two did a last-minute leap out into the M8 lane, one leapt into N25 (mine). In my platoon of cars, most were heading to M9 or city, which is not my normal experience of using this junction. I think that a lot of the M9 people don't know which lane to be in, and they're backlogging City/N25 traffic as a result. (N25 is actually reachable just fine if you're in the tunnel right-lane: just move left one lane once you exit the tunnel)

    Also, a disturbing increase in sudden lane-changing in the tunnel. I think people who were held up yesterday are engaging in aggressing "pre-emptive" queue-jumping and this is causing more problems.

    The normally shocking standard of driving in Cork is hitting a new low, though... I don't think people are really awake, and this is causing a problem.

    On the upside, the actual free-flow merge for tunnel to N25 Eastbound works beautifully. Good use of tiger-tail markings to stream the traffic properly and discourage lane-jumping. I suspect the 60 km/h limit will remain on the interchange, though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    It’ll take at least a week until this all beds down.

    I’ve read a person online who claimed to have been in the overtaking lane to go to M8 north but that it turned out she was in the wrong lane. This is factually incorrect and yet even after going through the junction she has it wrong. This is the standard of driving we’re dealing with.



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  • Posts: 266 [Deleted User]


    I was driving into Little Island from the new slip way and just had a few observations.

    1. The first roundabout is very unbalanced in terms of traffic flow. There's a continuous line of traffic coming from Glounthaune which made it very difficult to enter from the end of that new road.
    2. The roundabout / road is quite small at that point - is that the final version? Seems like a choke point.
    3. The temporary signage needs to be improved.
    4. There was an ENORMOUS tailback on the 'back road' that runs along behind East Gate and out towards the tunnel along the coast of Little Island. It was queuing right back to the entrance to East Gate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭BagofWeed



    I've been convinced for many a year that one of the major contributors to Cork's brutal traffic is the weak standard of driving here. And the recent carry on at the interchange would suggest that I may well be correct. The fear people seem to have behind the wheel when it comes to using interchanges and roundabouts is beyond me and they bring it on themselves by not even reading or looking at the multiple signages available.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    This is the exact movement I've been worried about for years. This will be the Dublin to Cork main route. It's also the Tunnel to Little Island route. It's also the vulnerable user route.

    I'm still convinced it will back up and choke the tunnel. My reasoning is that I remember regular tailbacks of several kilometers to get into Little Island alone. I don't think the designers appreciated that many thousands of cars arrive into Little Island at roughly the same time, when proposing the flow. Allowing those to free-flow through the tunnel interchange must surely cause a buildup at the Little Island junction. This is also the Eastbound flow, and after 20 or so vehicles are stopped, the N25 traffic flow will be negatively affected. The result will be additional rat-running from Watergrasshill and Sarsfields Court to the city, and tailbacks in the tunnel.

    I still hope I'm wrong. Time will tell



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Isn’t that roundabout going to get traffic lights eventually?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah FFS

    Watergrasshill and Sarsfields Court is my way to my parents (childcare), kids school, and work in Blackpool. It's going to kill that



  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭cork_south


    Every 10th car or so is cutting in from right lane to left lane after they exit the tunnel.

    This is slowing down the flow of traffic in both lanes obviously, and will lead to more crashes at the tunnel exit for sure.

    The only solution to stop this is have plastic cones separating the 2 lanes down the middle from the tunnel exit up until the junction but I guess that could be problematic in itself.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah, then you get assholes lane swapping inside the tunnel



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,631 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    How soon would the new link appear on google map?



  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭BagofWeed


    Your not wrong at all. This will become the main entrance into LI for people coming from the tunnel and the M8 plus the roundabout will also have the traffic which comes from the N8 in by the new link so it's going to be chaotic there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus



    A few random points.

    • The M8 South movement will have priority at both roundabout except for those cars coming out of Little Island travelling to Glounthaune or N25 east who will have priority at the north most roundabout
    • I’ve never seen a backlog of cars at the entrance to Little Island beside the tunnel entrance. I don’t think it will happen here either given the distance between the dumbbell interchange and where most employers are located. This is much more of an issue for the other entrance to Little Island further east on the N25.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭BagofWeed


    They claim it won't and lots of posters here also state that but I reckon it will eventually have lights there unfortunately. Remember lots of Cork drivers particularly older ones can't seem to use roundabouts so when the inevitable accident count starts to rise the calls for traffic lights will begin. Pricks that don't use indicators or don't know/care how to use them will be a danger there too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    I hope I'm wrong. And I have no more science than "hunch" on my side, whereas the designers had significant studies done. Let's hope their calculated design is more accurate than my "hunch"!



  • Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Where does it direct you to for Cork and where does it direct to City Centre? Since both are accessed on the N8, unless they've finally decided to recognise that the N40 leads to Cork too. Coming from the N40 just before the tunnel, it directs road users to "Cork" by going east on the N8, which used to say "Cork (East)" - as mentioned above



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭bigtimecharlie


    Small hijack, apologies if mentioned before but what is the works just east of Kinsale road junction for?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    New foot bridge to provide access to the Tramore Valley Park from Grange.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭cargo


    Any improvement this evening?



  • Registered Users Posts: 30,551 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Dunkettle




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    😂 Thats a good one


    Where does it direct you to for Cork and where does it direct to City Centre? Since both are accessed on the N8, unless they've finally decided to recognise that the N40 leads to Cork too. Coming from the N40 just before the tunnel, it directs road users to "Cork" by going east on the N8, which used to say "Cork (East)" - as mentioned above

    IIRC off the top of my head the left hand lane on the 2-lane gantry is for "Cork", and both lanes are marked "City Centre" above that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,178 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Just before the tunnel, after Mahon, there is a road sign saying ↖️ for Cork. Think it's misleading as you might think the road is before the tunnel. Saw someone making that mistake tonight.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭VeryOwl


    The signage on the new alignments feels a bit slapdash generally.



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