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Was/is the protesting at East Wall Racist?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    No

    The snobbish attitude of the virtue signalling classes and the far left NGO brigade towards the people of East Wall who protested at the sudden & unexpected invasion of almost 400 immigrants of unknown background is so typical of these arrogant, self-righteous, moralising virtue-signalling hypocrites.

    They are getting their answer. Long live these communities and their right to voice their justified concerns.



  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes

    London was ever the same, remember growing up hearing from lads who worked there saying to me,certain areas turned black,others Asian/paki etc over space of a few months in the 50s and 60s


    I think it had to do with roll out/building of new towns etc built and the vacated corporation houses being rapidly filled by the authorities of the time,the notion immigration is a new thing to there since 90s is dishonest surely....quite why people immigrate to such a poor country now is beyond me



  • Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭BagofWeed


    Yes

    The height of Irish ignorance on display for everybody to see. Its cowardly behaviour to target people who are not the cause of our countries problems. If these idiots want to protest about housing then they should grow a pair and protest outside politician's offices or even better outside their comfy warm houses or An Bord Planeala or An Taisce offices.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    No

    Again typical of the tone deaf smearing and talking down to these communities. If you spoke to them it isn’t housing these “migrants” that concerns them- it’s the lack of housing, services and infrastructure for the people already there. But “racist idiots” blah blah blah 😑



  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes

    Its really 50/50,many are (and should be) frustrated as fcuk at the issues facing the country,


    that the authorities saw fit to unveil an office block renovated into apartments and none given to housing list/locals,was going to rightfully receive backlash and suggests they are grossly out of touch......but the backlash is misguided at the wrong people,and by and large anyone protesting a politian are vilified by the media/labeled as shinners and dismissed.....


    others are happy to hitch their wagon to these protests,for own end,but not all protesting are racists....we have issues enough down here with outsiders trying to use local issues,to further their ambitions and usually end up sending em packing



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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,975 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    FG were definitely at the back of the bus shouting drive faster.

    But the PD's tried to sell everything that was and wasn't nailed down and then tried to sell the nails.



  • Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Marcos


    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,975 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    that the authorities saw fit to unveil an office block renovated into apartments and none given to housing list/locals

    It's communal living, our own have made their opinion clear on that as a temporary housing solution.



  • Registered Users Posts: 732 ✭✭✭French Toast


    No

    I dont know much about Renua but someone more competent.



  • Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Marcos


    I think the correct term you're looking for is punching down. Or at least it is when they're not doing it.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



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  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes

    But have they been offered to the locals/homeless/housing list first?


    Whole thing is reaching a boiling point around housing (daft report out today saying situation getting worse),screaming racist at anyone protesting here,only serves to deepen tensions*



    *I do fully acknowledge there's those who hitch their wagon to this issue/protest who are racist,but they have been utterly rejected at ballot box and numbers at protest,vastly outnumber amount first preferences,they could realistically pick up in that/any constituency



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,265 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    No

    we didn’t invade anyone but individuals from many international locations they are certainly eyeing up our home, and resources, . Btw the same thing will happen here,



  • Registered Users Posts: 732 ✭✭✭French Toast


    No

    Idk to be honest, I'm not very well read on politics.

    There just seems to be a growing demand for someone to take a slant similar to "Ireland for the Irish" but with a level headed approach (no pictures of Padraig Pearse or the GPO in flames).

    Again, all this coming from a barely informed viewpoint.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭Augme


    The reality is the migrants will do a far better job at getting employment and contributing positively to society then most of the locals who were protesting in East Wall.



  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭slay55


    No

    Hopefully this is only the start. More protests are needed and better organised.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    No

    Indeed- how dare these working class racist urchins have an opinion - let alone express it 😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,556 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    No

    Really? Be interested to hear you qualify this statement. If not then Again more of the talking down and smearing of a proud working class community



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    No

    Have a feeling the genie is out of the bottle now- warm cosy Irish times articles about “migrants” and lectures from NGOs/far left about how racist we all are isn’t going to cut much ice either



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No

    I worked in East Wall for 10 years. It is a fine community of people.

    By all means have a discussion on immigration into Ireland but begin by discussing the biggest immigrant cohort of them all BY FAR - Brits in the big tech and finance sector. Any wonder Irish millennials can't find homes.

    They're not EU citizens and should have to apply for working visas similar to hard-working people from Asia.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,326 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf



    it isn’t housing these “migrants” that concerns them- it’s the lack of housing, services and infrastructure for the people already there. 


    well why are they protesting about housing refugees in a building no 'native' Irish person would choose to live in. How is this in any way depriving 'locals' of services and infrastructure?



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    No

    No we have a common travel area rooted in hundreds of years old shared history- one that benefits both sides especially the Irish in Britain. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    No

    Have you asked locals or otherwise if they would live here or not? If you haven’t evidence of that then your point is meaningless speculation and more of the talking down/smearing the far left have seen explode on their arrogant faces this week.

    It’s kind of astounding that we have to explain the added strain 400 extra bodies add to traffic, security, infrastructure, health services etc. Do the far left imagine these people are going to stay holed up all day in their free accommodation?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,556 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers




  • Registered Users Posts: 39,975 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    But have they been offered to the locals/homeless/housing list first?

    As purpose built family hubs have been deemed to lack human dignity, I severely doubt throwing dozens of families into swiftly partitioned offices would be met with open arms.

    This is a temporary solution for Asylum Seekers and Refugees.



  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes

    And the homeless/housing list is made up entirely of families is it??



    I don't particularly mind the asylum seekers being put there,just I think the frustration/blowback is Reasonable given the disastrous nature of our housing crisis here....any protest around housing crisis is better than none



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,049 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Yes


    there is no invasion, just the use of a surplus to requirements building to house people in need.

    the protests are just whinging over brown faces that is all.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Yes

    If you were to take some of the clearly racist speakers and ask the question of are they racist, you'd get the same predictable replies from the obvious posters "Well I don't agree with all his views but he has some good points etc". You'll never get a "Yes, he is racist". Boring.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    No

    Keep dismissing their (legimate) concerns as racist. Going down a storm so far with the urchins



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    Yes

    Do a bit of looking into this before you chortle. Plenty of Irish involvement in the slave trade, many Irish merchants amassed great wealth directly and indirectly connected to slavery.



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