Homeless in hotels.. see what ye make of this...?

sporina · 22-11-2022 9:48pm #1

We were staying in a hotel last week for a few nights - 4 star - in a city..

Thursday night - 10pm - we met 2 women in the bar who were staying in the hotel as they were homeless.. waiting for a house from the council or whatever..

Anyway, they were both on the rip.. quite drunk and offering to buy other residents drinks..

They were popping up to their rooms at intervals as one of them had a 6 month old baby asleep..

I think some on social benefits got extra € last week..?

Anyway.. it just made me wonder.. seems like a bizarre situation.. government paying for these people to stay in a hotel and there they are on the lash..

They have my sympathy - there are obviously addictions there..

But... well.. I am sure you can see why I am so baffled by this..

I am not sure what the solution is, but something is v wrong there, no?

xxxxxxl · 22-11-2022 9:50pm

Filed under it never happened.

Jim_Hodge · 22-11-2022 9:58pm

Ok, what hotel? It's not breaking any rules or confidences to say which one, as it's public knowledge.

The Real President Trump · 22-11-2022 10:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058272913/homeless-in-hotels-see-what-ye-make-of-this

This is what happens when people don't take responsibility for their actions and are enabled to. There's a difference between providing for a cohesive society and allowing poor behaviour to gain advantage

We're not helping we're creating an underclass and division in society which will result in the undermining of very good and genuine social investment

First of all they shouldn't be in hotels that's an example of failure, society should have a range of housing options private, shared equity and public. In private those who can pay for themselves do, shared equity allows social mobility and ties society together through reward for their work, public should provide for those that can't provide for themselves but it should not provide for those to the detriment of the people carry the load

sporina · 22-11-2022 10:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119909173#Comment_119909173

not naming the hotel - why on earth would that matter anyway..

Jim_Hodge · 22-11-2022 10:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119909287#Comment_119909287

To give your OP some credance.

sporina · 22-11-2022 10:24pm

eh, no!

sporina · 22-11-2022 10:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119909250#Comment_119909250

yeah.. but whats the solution?

Beechwoodspark · 22-11-2022 10:37pm

To support the OP - I’ve witnessed and seen similar situations. So called Homeless partying in the hotel bar - no worries about money etc.

it would make you wonder

Ginger83 · 22-11-2022 10:39pm

We had to live in a hotel for two months while a cowboy builders mess was fixed at our home and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. You'd think it would be great but it wears thin very fast. You can't cook or wash clothes and it's so tough on kids at school.

walterking · 22-11-2022 10:45pm

Social welfare is far too generous here. One of the highest in the world and is an effective barrier to work.

A value should be put on everything and then a maximum value be implemented with no benefits above that.

Children's allowance in particular should be changed with decreasing amounts after child #2.

...Ghost... · 22-11-2022 10:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119909376#Comment_119909376

Why should children's allowance decrease after child #2? The dole needs cutting and reform, as does the generous free gaffs for life....but kids allowance after child 2 I cant make sense of when I see this being suggested.

The Real President Trump · 22-11-2022 10:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119909309#Comment_119909309

Affordable housing, simples, shared equity private estates for people with incomes of circa 40k to 70k, people have mortgages for bulk of price with government providing a portion.

You fail to pay your mortgage then your out. Everyone works, people get a good deal, housing stock increases and the people respect their homes because they are on the hook for the debt. Eventually purchase of the government equity

Expanded housing stock eventually, slowly but eventually frees up other housing for those that are not in a position to contribute but with a path to the shared equity scheme when they are

I think it's Hong Kong where by the government builds housing and the services to go with it and it's very successful

The Real President Trump · 22-11-2022 10:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119909408#Comment_119909408

There's a variation of this in Canada where it works well also

Padre_Pio · 22-11-2022 11:02pm

Is citywest still open or is it all homeless and Ukrainians now?

I remember staying a night there in a building separate from the main hotel and it was clear most of the residents were living there full time.

Beasty · 22-11-2022 11:09pm

We don't need yet another thread combining social welfare bashing and accommodation

Homeless in hotels.. see what ye make of this...?

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