Was/is the protesting at East Wall Racist?

Brazilian people need a visa to come here

Asylum seekers can throw away all identification and we have no idea who they are - and yet we still give them housing here

I see that the usuals can't this time label the people backwards culchies for daring to protest about primarily unvetted young male migrants being dumped on their doorstep, so they resort to referring to them as uncouth yobbos on welfare.

And these would be the same ones usually defending welfare.

These protests need to continue, they need to spread.

And I don't care if they are hijacked by the real Far Right.

After all they are the only ones appearing to give a shyte at the moment.

The body politic in this country needs a severe kicking to finally wake up and start putting the priorities of Irish people, taxpayers especially (ironic given the comments earlier and the possible makeup of a lot of the protesters) front and foremost.

I saw someone commented earlier about protesting outside government departments and the ballot box.

Protesting outside government offices does nothing, protesting outside politicians clinics and homes might be the way to finally get a point across to them.

And what choice do people have in the ballot box.

Ever single main political party (FG, FF, Greens, Labour and most especially those on the so called left SF, PBP, Social Dems) are very much in the pockets of vested interests, the NGOs, and the media on this matter. They are actually trying to out do each other.

The only ones not are the religious loons.

If one of the so called right parties in Ireland ditched the religious lunacy, ditched the Irexit crapology they would start winning seats.

That kid's family are a real piece of work, they are a plague on community.

Outside of their associates no one in East Wall view him as anything but a turd and deserving of life in jail.

Same with regard to Josh Dunne.

Well apparently the crowd reaction when someone held up a poster of Mary Lou didn't go down well. There were loads of boos, a fact noted by those outside the state.

Interesting times ahead.

367 votes cast and poll still a ratio of 64% to 36% in favour of not racist.

A Red C poll on it to the wider public would be interesting. I don't think the results would be too different.

People have every right to demand consultation over such changes to their community.

Outside of this issue, the class divide between the modern SF activist and the support base, is going to be very difficult to square in Govt.

Especially in Dublin and Cork. Less pronounced elsewhere.

But what has happened to those countries?

Seriously, people bang on about immigration on the continent as if Europe was an absolute oasis of peace and calm before the pesky outsiders ruined everything. You'd be forgiven for thinking that Europe had not been an almost perpetual battlefield of bloody atrocities perpetrated by white Europeans against white Europeans. Instead, it seems to be the case that the death of Europe is actually not all that, but the presence of migrants.

But sadly for that narrative, the EU countries remain among the safest, most progressive, most tolerant places one could ever hope to find themselves.

This whole trope of "look what's happening in Europe" is just such a weird argument based on a desperate attempt to build this narrative of seething migrant no-go areas where all (including the police) fear to tread. Oh yes, and let's not forget that dangerous areas in cities did not exist in Europe before late 20th century migration patterns. Sadly, the good old days of a crime-free Utopia in Dublin are now over, because of them bloody [insert latest darling nationality of attention here].

Not all immigrants are the same though, so are skilled and come to work, others are low skilled and require state help. This is where the friction is coming from. I think the original UN refugee convention, didn't really take into account that people would migrate to places with better welfare. That was not really the intention of it. For me it makes sense that Ukrainians would come to European countries as they have nowhere else to go, it makes sense to move into the neighbouring countries. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me that someone fleeing a far off conflict in East Africa or Afghanistan would come here. There are other safe places near by.

What exactly they think they were going to get from SF? When has that party's leadership expressed any skepticism about 'mass immigration'? Silence is the most sympathetic response they could hope for, in contrast to the loud denuniciations of the protests as racist from other opposition parties.

I don't think that was anti-immigrant, it was a loop hole that was being taken advantage of. I don't think people like the idea of the country being taken advantage of like that, basically being scammed. It is similar to Pamela Izevbekhai, a lot wanted her deported because she made up lies to help her asylum case. I voted for the Jus Soli amendment and I would vote for it again. I am pro-immigration if it is right kind (EU or highly skilled non-EU). I wouldn't see any reason to have taxi drivers from outside the EU for example.

We've always had problems so why not add some more is essentially your argument. It's a terrible argument, as no sane society wants to deal with more issues than they have to. What made the West once great was a constant attempt to improve our conditions, yet now the argument is that we should abandon that philosophy and essentially take our share of the worlds problems. All that does is slowly, or quickly, lower the quality of our lives, and for some reason some people think that that's something we should champion.

Lol. The posters on boards current affairs forum are not representative of the wider public. If they were we would see the NP in power and Gemma as pres.

I don't think we did, but you mean the 27th Amendment, which was first proposed by FF and put to the people when they were in governance?

It was loophole that needed to be closed because of a previous amendment. There was very little real opposition to it.

We were effective outliers in Europe, I am surprised more didn't vote it.

What a loophole that needed closing nearly 20 years ago has got to do with now is a strange one.

These type of generalizing blanket states really don't help the argument as much as you think it does.....

Thank you. Great input there.