Qatar World Cup

Great that a football thread has instead of dealing with football has been hi- jacked by dog whistlers and vested interests.

Suggestion, start a thread on the role of of FIFA and the State of Qatar in the 2022 World Cup.

Leave the football to the rest of us.

We can contribute to the non football thread if we are as driven as some here seem to be.

Load of woodsmoke here in my opinion.

Nope, Revolut Maestro.

I think the reactionary attitude is along the lines of 'don't put me on a guilt-trip and interfere with my WC viewing.' Everybody knows that FIFA and Qatar are corrupt and the tournament shouldn't have gone there. Everybody knows that women, gays and migrant workers are treated appallingly. They just don't want to hear it.

I'm another. It gives me that impression. What do you want a link to? A scientificly-conducted peer-reviewed study that investigates the connestion boards.ie users who use the word "woke" are opinions that they are pouplist Trump-supporters?

I cam imagine some poor conditions for refugees here, but not on the Qatar scale of inhabitable accommodation for migrant workers given the footage available and media reports from camps. Refugees, wherever they are worldwide, aren't required to work lengthy days in 52 degree heat. Nor are they prevented from returning to their homeland.

No alls well. The opinion of 2 boardies is good enough for me.

To what? Photos of the type of deplorables I referenced? Every utterance of the word "woke" in this thread?

The word is meaningless. To some it originally signified a short-hand for describing their interest in social equity, to others it's become an ad-hominem attack used because they know they'll get banned for calling the other poster a pussy (and they're too much of a coward to accept the consequences of their actions).

So, yeah, it's a stupid word to use. It just signifies that you haven't a better argument to make but want to lash out at someone who disagrees with you.

Visa are a FIFA partner.

Johnson and Johnson, and Contential are both sponsors for this world cup.

I don't believe that an adult in this day and age can avoid using Visa and certainly not J+J products in some shape or form.

And if you do have Mastercard rather than Visa was it by chance or because you decided to avoid them because of their partnership with FIFA?

And if it was the latter is it because of FIFAs awarding the 2022 WC to Qatar back on Dec 2nd 2010 ?

The figure is incorrect btw, but still bad. Just under 16 times that of the UK. Quick calculations:

India population - 1.393 billion, 21 times bigger than the UK at 67.33 million. 144 UK UK deaths by 21 is 3,024 which is per capita less than 1/16th of the UK deaths. Not the exaggerated 20 times.

You said 20 times that of Europe not the UK. Where is your source for that, particularly given the higher rates of construction deaths in Russia, Bulgaria and other parts of the East, including European Turkey where Istanbul has an enormous problem.

The ILO mandate is to advance social and economic justice by setting international labour standards. Which it has manifestly failed to do in Qatar and he has not tackled the authorities though his employers did state that:

'If all the deaths had been investigated properly, it's highly likely that many more could be re-categorised as work-related. Deaths from heart attacks / respiratory failure are not counted as work-related, even though these are common symptoms of heatstroke."

Your prerogative. But then display that same indifference to Irish workers or hospital patients who die unnecessarily.

Not visa but if you've used cocaine, illegally imported or cultivated marijuana or other narcotics then that moral high ground is very shaky.

Pretty sure there was a documentary on the BBC about it.

Anyway, the whole left/right thing has been replaced by woke/popularist and people who use said terms are the only ones who give a **** despite, untimately, being just as suggestive as the people they decry.

And no, I don't have a link to that, it's an opnion based on obsevation.