If Russia invaded us in the morning, who would come to our aid?

It’s an interesting question. In the highly unlikely event it did occur my take would be a look at our history.

First off I don’t think you would see the yanks or NATO helping beyond provision of weaponry and war funds. The Brits would immediately shore up the boarder and assist with people fleeing to the six counties.

But I think you would see a mass mobilization of militia elements on the island to disrupt, destroy and kill as many Russians as possible. The provisional movements in the past genuinely shows how crazy Irish people can be when faced with a superior foe. I think there is this strange burning patriotic fire in a lot of Irish people and throw into the mix proper weapons then you have a genuine resistance beyond the standard army.

Anyway that’s my opinion of this will never happen scanerio.

Ukraine land grab was not unlikely. Neither are political games especially with Russia.

Invading Ireland however would make no sense even in a military fictional what if scenario.

It would be more like James Bond plot. Evil Irish billionaire threatens moon with nuclear rocket. That may be Despicible 4 or Artemis Fowl plot though.

You werent made to vote on the same thing twice.

The EU said 'hey Ireland how about this'.

And Ireland said 'ok looks pretty good ... except that bit about nuclear energy and neutrality'.

So the EU came back with a new proposal which was like the old proposal ... minus the bits we didnt like.

Its a new model. Ps4, Ps5. Lisbon 1, Lisbon 2.

Also EU didnt trigger Article 13.

Also you can expect military assistance from the EU, and no that doesnt infer that we must do the same, we have a clause for our neutrality.

So thats 4 swings, 4 misses.

Ffs go and read.

Save us from?

Would we need help? Ukraine seem to be doing okay and we have something they don't. Hurls.

Bingo.

There are so, so, many things standing in the way of a Russian invasion of Ireland - especially in the light of recent military events over the past year - that any contemplation of it or the subsequent fallout is rendered utterly pointless.

Our military is largely employed in overseas peacekeeping activities, for which we are highly regarded.

Yeah, so what... 🙄

You just didn't understand the point did you.

Because since the beginning of this inane thread, you've completely failed to grasp the concept, that the future is unknown.

I already gave you the example of the Ukrainians hosting Euro 2012 with Poland, sitting in the stadium in Kharkiv, for example, drinking a beer, enjoying the football and the festivities on a balmy summer night.

If you tried to tell one of those Ukrainians that night, that in 11 years time, their Country would be semi-occupied, mostly bombed out west of the Dnipro and 15% of their population would have fled as refugees of War, they'd have called the men in white coats to take you away....

A modern military is an insurance policy, kept by responsible nations due to to the regrettable lessons of history. Including the history being written this very day in the Donbass.

And no amount of child level logic and argument from you, will make you correct.

The scenario is highly unlikely but the point is who would come to out aid?

I would guess that the UK due to their own security concerns

Likewise the EU France for the same reason

USA due to historic connections and the potential of being cut off from Europe.

To what extent is the next question..

Weapons yes, troops not so much, perhaps UK as they would like to ensure our victory but they might not want to start a nuclear war over it.

You might have picked a better example. Ukraine V Russian, (in their various forms and incarnations) has been being going on militarily and politically, through various form of states and countries for quite a while, historically speaking.

The point that Ireland is woefully under prepared to police/patrol/observe its borders, at land sea and air is Certainly valid.

Though defending it against any force that had the means to invade from a large distance is a different kettle of fish.

I wouldn't be so certain about that. Ireland is strategically interesting, an Island in the Atlantic. Thus it's not impossible to think that the Russians might be considering something.

And to answer the original question, I would say any military aid and help would be at first subject to a longer debate. I would guess, it would be a joint US and UK operation. US because many Americans have ties to Ireland, and UK because the RAF is already contracted to defend the airspace. Also I am sure the Brits would have considered the threat of having a Russian occupied Ireland on their doorstep, and they would hardly accept that.

I am also sure, the likes of GCHQ would spot any kind of Russian build up far ahead and warn the Irish and the world about it.