Accountability amongst the upper echelons of the Civil Service

There is a very simple solution that 400,000 Irish people wont like.

Make a public sector workers vote count as half one vote.

The people that are taxed to pay for the running of the country should have more say at the ballot box than those who take their taxes, form massive unions that are "friendly" with each other, and vote en masse such that they can effectively vote in (& out) the entire govt.

Any govt Minister that would seek to reform them would find themselves out of office in short order eg Nurses/Teachers/Garda strike & RTE backing the unions propaganda as they get paid from the same source.

Heck those groups threaten strikes all the time just get their pay bumped up outside of pay agreements. National debt? They dont care.

Weighted voting - simplez

You phrase that post in a way that anyone who wasn't aware,would think that public servants didn't cost taxpayers money to employ, didn't have uncosted and unfunded pensions, and didn't strike at the stop of a hat despite having job security that does not exist in the private sector.

Tell me where was democracy when the public sector and politicians colluded handing even more of the public funds to themselves? I don't remember getting a say in where my taxes were going.

Also your "pay taxes" analagy is specious. Sure why don't we pay each one a million euro salary, and take 950,000 off them. Then they could say "we pay more taxes than you". Obviously ridiculous, yet this is what teachers unions have pulled this exact same stunt!

So, my point stands tall. The people paying for all this, should get a greater say via a stronger vote, then those taking from them.

Correction, they are overpaid and MASSSIVELY over pensioned, to do jobs that in many cases should not exist.

Taxpayers are being absolutely fleeced to pay for this largesse, and yet the insiders continue to get away with it, because they can force out any politician who dares to take on their unions.

You have some cheek to misquote me. I said "threaten strikes".

Secondly this version of democracy where those that pay for everything get the same vote as those that take patently unfair.

Imagine a household where parents who work give their kids an allowance. But instead of taking x amount the kids take a little bit more, and give that bit back, and then proclaim they should have the exact nsame say in the how the household finances are spent!

Oh and how exactly do you know who I voted for, because the last 4 govts had zero of my candidates in them.

"Your candidates didn’t get into government because very few people share your views"

Ahahhaaahahhaah. Wrong again! Highest amount of first preferences votes out of all parties! So they did indeed get elected, the reason they didnt get into government is because FF FG merged, something they swore blind they'd never do!

This is some alternate reality stuff, if the system is so fair, why is it teachers are ridiculously over represented?

Where are the rest of the private sector PAYE workers in govt??? The truth is the deck is stacked afgainst them, whereas the govt and its sweetheart deals with the public sector mean that teachers can give politics a shot, and if it doesnt work out its straight back into their previous job, like nothing ever happened. Compare that with the private sector PAYE plebs if you dare.

Also "could get a voice in gov" lol . Vincent Browne has commented many times over the years hat the Irish system is absolutly nowhere as fair at govt level than most of europe. Basically the govt have all the power and the opposition don't. Hence SF won the most 1st pref votes, yet dont get a say in anything.

For as long as politicians are forced to kowtow to public sector unions this will not happen.

If the same transparency requirements existed in the private sector as existed in the public sector the private sector would probably become uncompetitive and fail.