Likely redundancy in January, how can I survive off €208 JB a week with 1200 monthly rent?

machaseh · 26-11-2022 3:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119924756#Comment_119924756

I read somewhere that clowns make about 50k a year, that is above the Irish median wage.

I gave you the explanation of why I came here, what else do you want to know?

xhomelezz · 26-11-2022 3:11pm

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I suggest you take that job, 50k for a clown job should definitely sort out your rent.

RoTelly · 26-11-2022 3:20pm

Regardless of the poster

220 is the total for 7 days from 2023 or 953per month.

I assume you have some savings you can dip into for those months, or you can find a house to share if single meaning your rent won't be as high, or you may receive redundancy money. Max redundancy is €600 a week, as you are two years with the company this would come to €3,000, (based on your rent I assume you'd get the max).

As others have pointed out you should start looking for a job now to avoid having to sign on, or you should consider a minimum wage job to tided you over that would bring you to €452, full time, but there are plenty of places paying more than the minimum wage.

If you don't have savings and feel a minimum paying job won't suit you or your lifestyle, you could apply for rent supplement along with your JB, there you will be means tested to see if you are being truthful when saying you can't pay your rent.

In any case your your local social welfare office will ask for proof that you have been Jobseekng as it is part of the T&C's

Jim2007 · 26-11-2022 3:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119923375#Comment_119923375

It does not really matter what is going on in the Netherlands nor any other state of the Union. The only requirement is that you are treated the same as any other EU citizen or an Irish citizen and you are. And you in turn will have to do what every other person in the country would do and that is most likely give up the apartment and find shared accommodation, boarding or move to a cheaper part of the country or if all else fails seek social housing.

However your situation may be worse than you think. Contrary to what you think as posted else where, it is very possible for Ireland to deport you. As you said you have been been here for five years, that means that you have failed to establish economic viability as required by the EU directive. Furthermore you stated that you have a serious medical disability, which at this point could lead the authorities concluding that you are more likely to become a burden on the state rather than being likely to establish economic viability and in accordance with the EU directives that gives them the right to deport you.

Choose your strategy carefully, you are in a more precarious position than you think....

26-11-2022 4:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119924914#Comment_119924914

Seems like either way you are in a tight spot, but if you dislike Ireland/Irish people so much, it would seem to make more sense to relocate to where you are from. As you can see, Ireland has welcomed more than our fair share of emigrants, and for the most part we are better for it. But if you aren’t happy here, and are prone to voicing your dislike of your hosts, then that grates a bit and your welcome well wear out pretty quickly. As I posted earlier, if you are unable to pay your share of the rent, your flatmate will also be at risk of eviction, which means your flatmate will look to replace you, so it would seem prudent for you to plan to move before you are made to.

So, you need to assess whether you are better off here or in the Netherlands and nothing of what you have posted makes staying here a more appealing option if you are that unhappy in Dublin.

machaseh · 26-11-2022 4:18pm

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The Irish are not my "hosts". I have worked full time for 5 years and paid taxes. A "host" does not charge his "guest". I also do not need permission of the Irish to be here as Ireland is in the EU.

There is an eviction ban until March 2023 which might be extended. I am not at risk of legal eviction. I am at risk of an attempt at illegal eviction by my Irish slumlord who has repeatedly threatened to send his goons to evict people by illegal force. Well he is welcome to attempt that luckily Ireland has stand your ground laws against illegal home intruders allowing the usage of appropriate force if necessary to protect your home. This is legal in Ireland within limits. If someone is armed you can use force to disarm them but you cant just shoot an unarmed intruder.

26-11-2022 4:29pm

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I think I read on another thread, but am open to correction, that an eviction notice can be issued during period when evictions are banned, it will become enforceable immediately after the ban ends. It will be your flatmate rather than the LL who will want you out as he/she is likely to be joint and severely liable for your rent and will not want to risk being homeless because of you.

Edit: Yip, notice of eviction can be served during the moratorium period, and acted on as soon as it ends, and a point very pertinent to you, protection against eviction may not extend to you if you don’t pay your rent.

https://www.irishlegal.com/articles/law-banning-no-fault-evictions-during-winter-passed

Ireland is your host, by virtue of the fact that you are not a citizen, as another poster has pointed out to you, your right to be here is not absolute.

Esse85 · 26-11-2022 4:38pm

If I was WFH home 4 days a week like the OP is, I wouldn't be spending €1200 on rent to live in Dublin city center, no wonder she/he is so miserable.

machaseh · 26-11-2022 4:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119925098#Comment_119925098

Okay would you live in Muff county donegal if you could not drive due to a visual disability? Would you really? Without having any family there that can give you a lift?

Because I really do not think you would do that. Not without the ability to drive.

RoTelly · 26-11-2022 4:49pm

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Well may I say welcome to Ireland and congratulations your on your way to becoming Irish with that entitlement streak running through your posts, long with the chip on your shoulder on how the Irish and Ireland is a pathetic country. There are many like minded out there across Dublin.

Honestly, if you want to find out about rent support schemes apply for them, you might find you are entitled to something, maybe not everything but something, and if you aren't then you have to change and realize that you might have to move outside of the city centre or even Dublin for a while. That's just life.

I'd be inclined to look for somewhere new to live, if I where you.

Who knows you might even have a new job and not have to worry about any of this.

26-11-2022 4:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119925121#Comment_119925121

Is being homeless in Dublin a more appealing prospect?

machaseh · 26-11-2022 5:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119925128#Comment_119925128

I find that the motivation to for example study for IT related certifications is lower, and my motivation to prepare for job interviews as well. I did have a few interviews running lately but I approached the interviewer a bit too critical I think. I was interviewing them more than they were interviewing me, because I want to avoid ending up in a toxic workplace like my previous job. My current job has very nice colleagues, but the company is about to die. Maybe they were too nice and that's why that happened, I don't know.

RoTelly · 26-11-2022 5:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119925166#Comment_119925166

As a person who works in IT and is on the way out there is a reason for the lack of motivation in doing another waste of time certificate, but that could be the company I work for. I am gone in 2 years hopefully.

gameoverdude · 26-11-2022 5:07pm

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But you were creating a toxic work place by abusing your colleagues through your native language. Almost seems cowardly and arrogant.

You mention IT. What part of IT do you work in? Some areas are 10 a penny.

Also I bet you sneer at Irish people when you meet them. Yet you wonder why they're not gagging over you.

If you're in a relationship you hate, you get out.

whomadewho · 26-11-2022 5:15pm

Like a lot of lads, I lost my job in the construction industry back in 2009. I has a 350k mortgage to pay on a house worth half that but you just do what you have to do survive. I spent a bit of time on the dole then I got on a CE scheme, worked in M&S, delivered leaflets, washed windows. I did everything and anything to pay my mortgage.

You know are going your loose your job so go out a get another one, there are plenty out there if are willing to Work

26-11-2022 5:22pm

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Telling a foreigner who clearly is unhappy with both the country and its citizens to leave isn’t racist or discriminatory. Despite the criticism you have levelled at us, you seem unusually thin skinned when it comes to the response. You are an economic migrant, if the culture and economics of living here no longer suit you, the obvious question is why stay?

RoTelly · 26-11-2022 5:25pm

Telling a foreigner to leave the country is racist. Simply noticing that their handiman skills aren't the best is just stating a fact. And the thing about homeless tents on O Connell Street is a failure of the government you voted for. I can't vote here, only the Irish can.

@machaseh Hold on your here 5 years you can apply for citizenship.

Hold on you live in Dublin and you are an EU citizen you can vote in local elections and European Elections.

Local elections .... local facilities ... care of the homeless and others.

You being general toward a country, just because you are a foreigner living in a country doesn't mean your not racist towards others in the country, you are making general statements and name calling, this is the definition. Or do you just become racists when you say it in your own country?

gameoverdude · 26-11-2022 5:36pm

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I'd be more inclined to give more time to somebody who went out there and digged deep to put food on the table, even if it wasn't a job they wanted as opposed to somebody who did nothing apart from whinging and what can I expect.

It's not easy and I've been there.

So OP, there is light at the end of the tunnel, but you have to remove tunnel vision and arrogance.

Beasty · 26-11-2022 7:28pm

Lots of reports coming in about this thread. I'm closing it, but will not get to check through all the reports until later, and further action may follow

Likely redundancy in January, how can I survive off €208 JB a week with 1200 monthly rent?

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