Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

Some on this thread have forgotten that many Irish people didn't emigrate. They stuck it out in poorer times and helped build the country up.

That's where many of the economic immigrants should be sent. Straight back to where they came from and let them be good citizens of their state of birth.

I actually support Ireland taking in Ukrainians.I have great sympathy for them.Any of the ones I talk to are very grateful to be here but also want to return home.There is a war not too far from us and we have a legal and moral duty in my opinion.

What I don't support is the Government paying them €208 a week each whilst also covering all their costs.That was a laudable gesture at the start but isn't proportionate or sustainable.A couple will have nearly €22k a year disposable income.I work two jobs and my Mrs is an accountant and we wouldn't manage that.Nobody has the balls to say we need to change this.

The above is a small gripe compared to what has been done to the biggest indigenous industry in this country.It will send my business to the wall but again that's very minor compared to what's going to happen when there isn't a summer season in the tourist industry next year.Theres plenty who don't care about this now as they think "I'm alright sure I go to Spain every year,rip off Ireland" etc.They have no idea how tourism drives employment either directly or indirectly.

I don't blame the Ukrainians for any of this,the " international protection " scam (which this thread is about) is a much bigger threat.

I find it so frustrating that not only are we not trying to solve any of this but we're not even at the point where it can be discussed in the media.Think about that for a minute,this is a bigger problem than brexit,covid,the homeless crisis,the health service,climate change and all the big media,TV,papers etc are too scared to even cover it in any depth.That is frightening.

You make some very fair points. I would suggest as well though that it's difficult to see how we could have avoided many of the problems of the large refugee intake of 2022, short of refusing to take any Ukrainians at all. It has been pointed out that per capita we have one of the highest intakes of Ukrainians in Europe, but what is being omitted from this is that, as per our neutrality, we haven't sent them any military aid.

A scenario where we refuse to take Ukrainian refugees in significant numbers and refuse to send them military aid would seem somewhat untenable in light of what other European countries are doing. Yes, the accommodation issues are severe and it has created all sorts of problems and bottlenecks for the country, but we were are in the middle of an ongoing European war.

Even if it ever did exist which is dubious it is hardly any reason to endorse the extreme free market position on migration we now have.

That people on the left use it is truly bizarre.

They are when they come from countries that don't meet the general requirements for asylum. While they'll have the temporary status of an "asylum seeker", the end result, which is the rejection of their claim for asylum, then turns them into economic migrants. It's like murdering a man in cold blood in a street full of people. Technically you'll be innocent until proven guilty, but everyone knows that you're already guilty.

In fairness, when Ireland decided to allow unrestricted movement to the new EU-10 in 2004:

" It is a deliberate misrepresentation to suggest that tens of thousands will suddenly descend en masse on Ireland." [Proinsias De Rossa, I.T.Letters, 20/8/2002

" I estimate that fewer than 2,000 will choose our distant shores each year." [P.De Rossa, I.T. Letters, 20/8/2002 ]

And was an MEP for three years at the time so not inexperienced in such matters