Kilkenny GAA Thread

I think limerick beating kilkenny in croke Park was really significant for this limerick team kilkenny are so hard to beat anywhere but especially there so I think that could be a monkey off the back so to say for us.

I thought kilkenny were magnificent I certainly didn't think we were much better but we were and that was without lynch and you could say casey we have more forwards that'll be pushing for starting spots like Adam English but don't see more backs coming through. It seems mike Casey's injury wasn't as serious as first feared so that'll help.

next year limerick will be favourites but there's no guarantees as there's too many good sides. for me top challengers are Waterford and kilkenny. Can tj keep it going? I thought he was finished v cork in semi in 21 that'll be 2 yrs by the time it comes around again? What a player!!

After that galway clare , cork and tipp have new managers I think it's going to be fiercely contested next yr

I don't remember it anyway it must of being a long time and both clubs can have no complaints beaten by better teams on the day.

Why do so many people think Ronan and Darragh Corcoran are brothers? Here, the papers, the radio. It's everywhere.

Conor Browne taking year out

Possibly I am being harsh on Kenny and Browne but there's no denying the facts they were beat decisively by Mullen and Corcoran for 22 minutes when the Village had an extra man. If we get a bump we should win the All Ireland yes, will we get one God knows. I just outlined reasons why we might get a bump. Cody was amazing and we'll never see his likes again but there's no doubt he struggled for the last 6 years more than he ever did before not all down to him but he had problems he couldn't solve.

I don't know if Derek and his team can solve the puckouts and I'm not advocating for all long or short puckouts. To be honest a puckout to your own 65 is often a better option than straight to the forward or to a corner back.

An effective puckout is as much about the movement of the outfield players as it is about the goalkeepers ability to pick the right option. If the outfield players aren't creating options with movement then the keeper has a thankless task.

Watch the Limerick puckouts. Often players are drawing their marker away from an area to create space for another Limerick player to be running into and he is usually ahead of his man to that ball, leading to safe possession and usually with few markers around to swarm him. Kilkenny rarely if ever tried this type of puckout under Cody just short or long and usually to static targets.

The Limerick puckout takes a huge amount of practice by the way and understanding from the players about what is trying to be achieved. Derek definitely didn't seem to be working a system like that last year but then again very few if any have been able too other than Limerick. Can we get to that level of coaching under Derek Lyng and do it our own way I don't know but if we can we will be a better team in 2023.

Ground hurling is a definite option but it has to be effective, the thing that's probably against it is twofold.

1. lots of not most players now play with hurls which would traditional be considered too short hard to hit the ball on the ground right with that type of hurl.

2. The skill is lost or dying and most don't have the ability to get it to where it should go.

So when you look at current ground strokes from a stats perspective the majority end up in the opposition hands and this is a no no to a modern manager where the came has become all about possessions etc.

I think it could be effective but it would require a big rethink and dedication by a team to make it effective.

Browne will be a loss so will Michael Carey. Richie leahy had a good club year but apparently he’s gone travelling too. Thought we’d have a retirement or two by now.

Ground hurling .. haha. Shur the modern defensive mantra is take it to the ground, swarm in with numbers then clear. Shur wot hope has the forward if the ball is coming in on the ground! Nuts to a monkey ger

Alot of clubs are losing players so it's not a huge suprise players are going travelling. It's hard to blame any young lad who wants to see the other side of the world.Best of luck to conor and safe travels.iRichie leahy had a good season with the rower but we've being waiting for a few years for him to break into the team maybe a year out could refresh lads. I'm suprised myself there hasn't being a few retirements but Richie Hogan is going again next year.Alot of this years u20 panel are called in and from talking to a lad that's in its a huge step up from last year.Training with the seniors will hopefully bring these lads on.Derek knows these players and will have a decision to make around championship time wit the lads that are eligible next year.i don't think there's anyone ready to make the breakthrough.

Alot of ballyhale lads have being invited in. Lads like ronan corcoran and Evan shefflin definitely have something to offer at county level.

Alot of teams mightnt bother with the league when they see the way Waterford blew up and Limerick timed their run.One of Derek's biggest challenge will be trying to find a settled midfield pairing. Corcoran and blanchfield are in pole position for the 2 half back position. He'll have to explore center back and a few fowards like Shane Walsh can definitely force his way onto the team.

Darragh Joyce is coming home for the Christmas. I've heard he got offers in the afl but he had conversations with Derek and done fitness tests before he left.Its probably the last chance he'll get and even at that it will be very hard to get up to speed after missing so much but best of luck to him whatever he does.

Obviously DJ is the big one as he walked away and came back.

But even in recent years didn't James Maher take a year out and came back in. Plenty other lads were let go and called back even over the last few years..

I had heard off a few Limerick lads, Tom Morrisey was going away too, but I'd say he was likely "persuaded" to stay.

There was a lot of chat this week about the 2 Galway senior teams costing 2 million to run last year.

Even if Galway spent close to 1 million on their senior hurling team, I would say it would be absolutely dwarfed by Limerick's spending.

If a huge part of achieving success at IC level will be dependent on having maybe 2 million to spend per annum on your senior team, Kilkenny will be in big trouble.

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