Katherine Ryan claims she called out alleged ‘sexual predator’ celebrity on TV series

Looks like Fern Brady has mentioned on more that one occasion that Russell Brand is a sexual predator. Wonder if anything will ever come of it?

There isn't even an allegation, just the word 'predator'.

Are people now at the stage where they will believe something without even knowing what it is?

So we have no allegation and no accused but the accuser (of something?) is A Woman.

Because the purpose of her comments weren't to spread rumours, but instead discussing something she experienced in the context of and relevant to the conversation she was having with others. From what I remember she was talking with other female comedians about hearing these types of accusations about male comedians, how many female comedians have group chats to let others know about incidents they've had with male comedians etc. Ryan's comment was relevant to the conversation she was having, but she very intentionally didn't give any identifying information because that wasn't the point of what she was saying. She was trying to discuss one experience she had, not what the man had actually done.

The fact that other people, namely people on the Internet and some sections of the media, have endlessly speculated as to who she was referring to or trying to get her to reveal either who it was or who the woman it happened to was, that's entirely on them.

Yeah, I know you got yourself all het up over this but you said "why believe", not me. False allegations happen, in a lot of circumstances, but you said "commonplace" which is not the case. Obviously AGS can't just choose a side, investigations must happen and like I said, while that's the case, names/details should not be known to the public.

We've been through not believing victims in the past. That's why we don't wanna go down that road.

Romesh Ranganathan is starring in a new sitcom with Katherine Ryan. I wonder why he felt comfortable starring with her even after she talked about the thing which started this conversation.

Maybe, it's because he knows he's not a sex pest and that Katherine isn't someone who would baselessly throw out accusations without cause.

It's funny, but when the Harvey Weinstein revelations were in full swing, many complained about why women weren't warning other women about him. Yet here we have the idea that some UK female comedians give each other the heads up about inappropriate behaviour, and now "Well male comedians just shouldn't work with any women in case they're the victim of vague accusations!"

I listen to a few podcasts by UK comedians, with other comedians as guests etc. It's very clear that the majority of male and female comedians get along great, support each other, like each other etc. Even just taking Katherine Ryan as an example, like I said she's now starring in a new sitcom with Romesh Ranganathan, she hosted her own stand-up showcase on Amazon Prime with a bunch of male comedians who had no issue working with her, she tours and works with a pretty right-leaning, anti-woke comedian called Geoff Norcott, and Jimmy Carr is one of her best friends even though some here and on Reddit were speculating that maybe Katherine was referring to him with her comments (because people speculating even though there was pretty much zero identifying information given are ridiculous). None of them had any hesitation working with her.

Maybe if you were a comedian and were scared that just working with a female comedian would lead to them having to warn other female comedians about you, maybe the issue wouldn't be with them.

I don't know. I've had people say to me that they will not participate in a young person's experience programme in their work due to the risk of working with children.

OTT perhaps, but these kinds of things do generate real fear.

So take it up with the people who are starting and spreading the rumours. You’ve quite a few of them on this thread if you want to challenge the insidious nature of their speculation.

If you can't imagine a context where a man talking to a woman about sex can be creepy, make them feel violated, scared or extremely uncomfortable you need help. Seriously.

Simple solution for this problem

She makes a statement to the police. Let them take it from there.

She wasn't the one the incident happened to. If she goes to the police, it's hearsay. It would be up to the woman the incident happened to to make a statement to the police.

Do you think she should go to the police to make an official accusation against someone where she would have to officially and on the record name the man, even though she has no direct evidence and was neither the victim nor a witness to the incident?

How real the fear is would be up for debate but certainly seems a bit OTT to me.

These kinds of suggestions imply that taking such claims to the police 1) isn’t a horrendous experience for the complainant and 2) is likely to have a positive outcome.

Have a look at some of the leaked text messages from Met police officers and tell me that you’d be happy for your sister or your daughter to be taking her sexual assault claims to those officers.