solve the housing problem easily...some solutions?

We cant sell it because of its planning status. Without going into too much detail, it is an ancillary building and cannot be subdivided. We tried to get this planning restriction removed but were refused.

Still would appreciate an answer to my question on whether your suggestion to solve the housing crisis in Ireland is to kill the tourism industry here?

Another poster has detailed how important this industry is to the country yet you suggest removing from the market over 25,000 properties that allow people to travel to this country when they can't or don't want to stay in a hotel. The link I provided suggests between 2006 and 2019 the number of hotel rooms or similar in the country has dropped from 4,300 to 1,992 indicating hotel accommodation is only a fraction of the accommodation provided by the types of short term rentals you want to make illegal using your own figures. I don't agree with you that the flippant phrase "we're grand" is much reassurance to those whose way of making a living is dependent on tourism and as has already been pointed out in the thread some of these short term lets are not even suited to long term occupancy. Its my opinion that the market here for property is already over regulated and this contributes to the shortage of supply by making development more difficult. Your idea of introducing even more regulations in my opinion is not a practical solution as it generates very serious problems for the economy without fully addressing the main issue which is the need for improved development of new accommodation of all types.

Well I'll take your figures to be accurate since I just typed the question into the search engine but even with the bed space in hotels at 153,625 the 25,000 short term let properties you want to ban must be a multiple of that in terms of bed spaces. Even with an average of three beds in the short term let properties that would be 75,000 beds you simply want to make unavailable for tourists. That could be a similar impact on the torism industry of closing half of the hotel beds in the country and you still think that "it'll be grand" is sufficient reassurance for the those working in the tourism industry?

If people are not able to access more affordabel short term lets because of your idea of making them illegal there will be significant numbers of tourists who will simply spend their recreation money somewhere else. Younger brother just came back from a holiday in the south of Portugal with accomodation renting a high quality apartment for 30euro per night (in their quiet season) and its hard to see that many people choosing to holiday here if the only similar option in Ireland are the high priced hotels.

Rent of rubbish. The reason we are in the rental mess is the lads with 1-3 property are running to the hills. Why should they have to have a limited company if they have more than two.

We have all these micky mouse laws already. The farm house I have rented was derelict before I did it up. There was no que of people to buy the other one or the holiday home I bought. Loads of people turned there noses up at these sort of properties they still do to an extent.

There are I would say 100+ vacent properties between the two villages either side of me and there hinterlands.

None of them are short term let's either. Owners just will not risk letting them because of the carp that goes on.

And what happens then ?

Wow so we could go back to printed directories, updated annually, and sold in tourist information offices? Everyone will love that!

@Bass Reeves Link is not working

Do you mean this?

“These surveys also showed that property owners, tenants, and agents found the regulatory framework and changing legislation difficult to navigate and understand,” Tom Dunne, chairperson of the RTB, will tell the Dáil committee.

It doesn't appear to be the case.

You think that people would board up an asset worth hundreds of thousands and leave it to rot rather than either sell it, or rent it out to someone. The latter approach providing and income and ensuring the asset is maintained.

unless we ship out all the younger people, demand aint going away anytime soon, and shipping them out would lead to a catastrophic economic and social collapse, so public building is the only real solution, only our governments have been resisting this only true solution all the way, it just means now we re far worse off than ever, and those main parties are now fcuked, so be it!

Planet waffle more like.

I might invest in plywood manufacturers. I'll be quids in when all these hypothetical 25k short term lets can't do it any more and decide to board up their properties and leave them to rot rather than sell them or rent them out.

If you aren't able to make renting out an average house in return for an average rent cover your marginal cost of doing so, then society needs to take that house from you. We can't keep subsidising incompetence.

It's clear what you're saying is coming from lack of experience.

I've been a landlord for over 20 years, and not just in Ireland. It's only the last 6 or so years it doesn't make sense here. And if that doesn't tell you something, you're just not listening.

I'd fecking LOVE the govt to buy all my irish residential properties off me, for the same money I paid for them. Let them at it. If I could I'd convert every single one of them into a shop or office.

Never sure if you are actually that willfully ignorant or being disingenuous.

Yes, it's shocking isn't it. That's the risk of squatting tenants in Ireland, and has been happening. If you want your personal home back after a period of letting it out, you are dependent on the goodwill of the tenant to hand it back. Or you take them to court for ten years at a huge cost.

What a system eh!