What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

Well, women's rights is an odd one to hang your hat on here. Again, despite years now of these seethig, frothing, women-hating migrants incessantly multiplying, women's rights and the awareness of women's issues grows better and better all the time in these Western countries where apparently we are all being dragged back into the past by pesky migrants.

And what about Charlie Hebdo? Anyone can acknowledge the problem of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism without pretending that the world's one billion Muslims are all plugged into a Borg culture of wanting to butcher people. In my own lifetime, as a northerner, innocent people were being shot and blown to pieces by white Loyalist and Republican fanatics who were homegrown right here on this island. Any assertion that these atrocities were reflective of some cultural predisposition of people within the six counties towards bloodlust would be rightly laughed out the door.

Finally, the "ethnic breakdown of the prison population" is not some brilliant masterstroke. Crime is linked to deprivation and poverty — and very often migrants end up in deprived areas. Those deprived areas were once full of Irish people, and as education standards (among other things) Irish people were able to move up the ladder, and the gap beneath them has been filled by migrants. And if it wasn't filled with migrants it would still be filled with Irish people. I mean, there was a time when the prison population of Ireland would have been pretty much 100% white Irish right ? And it would be ludicrous to say that that this is reflective of Irish society being a criminal culture, right ? Like do you really believe that when you cite some demographic as being disproportionately represented in the prison population, that it's fair to make the bald statement they are coming from a culture where the entire populace are just yearning to commit crime ?

Hilarious that you think this is a good argument.

Most people don't think we "suffer" under mass immigration.

If we didn't have the influx of immigrants here in the 80s and 90s we'd still be driving around smoking Major in Nissan Datsuns with a 17% unemployment rate.

more foreigners coming to dilute our culture

The Spanish have been coming here for 500 years.

You don't find Governments in S Korea/Japan/Thailand/Brazil/China/Ethiopia/ etc etc etc...(essentially most of the world) going to extreme lengths to generate mass immigration. The only exception are the Gulf Oil monarchies which operate a modern form of indentured servitude where all understand that time limited contracts will be enforced and very restricted rights apply. There is no pathway to citizenship for example and GCC citizens concerns and needs will always be paramount. Were you to suggest to a Thai or a Korean or a Senegalese that their culture was somehow lacking and would be greatly improved by bringing in a potpourri of millions from across the globe.. it would sound to them not only preposterous but borderline insane. EU Govts act as if national identity drawing on a unique culture, in our case Irish identity, is a dangerous mental disorder that can only been cured by multiculturalism. To Hell or Connaught.

Your view on this just seems naive to be honest. The global employee market isn't some sort of shop where we can casually decide what we get. If you want to attract highly qualified European talent to a grey sky, rainy, wet place like Ireland, it has to be an attractive place to come to. That means competitive conditions need to exist for European migrants here. If you want young Spanish graduates here, rather than in our competitor economic centres like Paris, Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Brussels etc, then part of that is being able to offer the same freedom of movement offered there.

The other side of that is that in a somewhat porous system like that, you will sometimes have migrants entering the country who will not be economically productive. Derogations under EU law would allow you to require their exit but often human rights concerns can kick in (again this is the other side of the coin to the upside of living in a country where rights are taken seriously).

The Roma community have been in Europe for centuries and have consistently faced prejudice and even persecution. I imagine there is a reasonable number of small businesses out there who would prefer not to hire a Roma "gypsy". Marginalisation in society can make integration harder to achieve.

I do tend to find though that most people who bemoan the Roma have actually never spoken to a Roma person or done anything proactive to help their integration. Instead they just stereotype then and unwittingly contribute to the problem.

Ah so its the Irish that are the problem .

Not the Roma who came here to live on welfare from the start.

Got ya. Its all clear now.

If only the Irish werent so open in letting foreigners come here and enjoy generous welfare for their large families who have no connection to the state .

With no Roma in Ireland there would be no mean Irish treatment of them.

There wouldnt be all the problems caused by the 'racist' Irish in feeding, clothing and accommodating the poor Roma who are coming to live in Dublin in very large numbers. Look around Dublin city centre on any given day.

Because obviously the Irish are pushing the Roma to come to Ireland, if only we left them alone.

Some folks have crazy logic.

Sometimes a lot worse than stereotyping. There was a post here a few weeks pretty much supporting mass genocide of Roma. A few weeks ago someone openly said on this site it would have been preferable if all Roma had been gassed rather than Jews in the holocaust. And people deny theres racism on this site. 😶

The graph you posted shows a big increase in migrants in the 70s and 80s. Tens of thousands of people. Loads of of them here to lay the groundwork for Intel, work for Apple, for banks, big pharma etc.

Growing up in the 80s I had Japanese (finance), American (tech), Indian (medical) and Swedish (tech) neighbours. All in good jobs and all here to work and start Irish operations here.