World Cup 2022 - Team and Match Discussion

Esse85 · 29-11-2022 9:44pm

Bale and Ramsey absolute frauds, stealing a living the last number of years for their clubs, Wales would of been better off bringing 2 younger players for the experience than those two passengers who haven't contributed a tap.

Infoseeker1975 · 29-11-2022 9:46pm

England are likely to meet France in the QF, I would be surprised if France did not win that easily enough.

TheCitizen · 29-11-2022 9:47pm

That ref in the Iran USA game loves to be the centre of attention

Agent Coulson · 29-11-2022 9:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937074#Comment_119937074

I wouldn't right off Senegal beating them in the round of 16.

29-11-2022 9:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119936989#Comment_119936989

Look maybe he is injured but he wasn't even running during the first half to even half close people down. The absolute minimum you expect is someone to run no matter at what pace it is

CalamariFritti · 29-11-2022 9:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119936974#Comment_119936974

It was a decent free kick no argument. But it was the goalie corner and it wasn't 'top corner'. Any decent PL goalie will save that.

I don't know what Ward was thinking. He was moving in the other direction just before the kick and wrong footed himself. Only for that he would have had it. Ward is a big drop from Schmeichel for Leicester.

breezy1985 · 29-11-2022 9:55pm

Loved Queiros screaming and hopping on the sideline when 9mins injury time was announced.

gormdubhgorm · 29-11-2022 9:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937013#Comment_119937013

I don’t buy that narrative at all. I think the truth is more Bale has been injury prone throughout his career. Played so many games from a young age and was a key player from a young age.

Similar to Michael Owen for England- the way Bale played meant burn out sooner than most, and more likely to get injured.

TheCitizen · 29-11-2022 10:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119936905#Comment_119936905

Ireland 2012 was horrendous. In 2012 for Ireland it was Spain, Italy and Croatia.

Wales had a conservative England that they didn't lay a glove on with USA and Iran. One decent half v USA.

They were shocking and both Bale and Ramsey have disgraced themselves towards the end of their careers.

Mr.Nice Guy · 29-11-2022 10:02pm

Nothing in that.

Jarhead_Tendler · 29-11-2022 10:03pm

USA are a 45 minute team it seems. The Dutch while not being impressive should dispose of them easily enough.

breezy1985 · 29-11-2022 10:04pm

Both sides absolutely wrecked after the US Iran game

Hammer Archer · 29-11-2022 10:04pm

If Taremi actually focused on going for the ball there instead of flopping to the ground, he could have possibly gotten something from that ball in.

breezy1985 · 29-11-2022 10:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937149#Comment_119937149

We also qualified with a team with a few of our legends who were sadly past it by the time the tournament came around.

fyfe79 · 29-11-2022 10:06pm

Looks like Duff is wearing an Iran badge.

breezy1985 · 29-11-2022 10:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937134#Comment_119937134

Na he sat on his hole and played golf and was flippant enough to laugh and joke about it.

Just cause people like the guy he seems to get off with getting paid to sit on the bench.

gormdubhgorm · 29-11-2022 10:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937199#Comment_119937199

Well he won Real at leats one CL from the bench. If he wasn’t a good pro he would have sulked like Ronaldo is now. Only last year posters on the Ireland thread were saying - the only difference between Ireland and Wales was ‘world class’ Bale.

fyfe79 · 29-11-2022 10:14pm

Glad the US got through - their teams have always tried to play the right way. They'll make it a more entertaining game against the Dutch than Iran would've. But - the US seem to burn out after 60 mins in every game which they'll not get away with against Holland.

Anything could happen in the England vs Senegal game. That could well be a 0-0 and penalties.

breezy1985 · 29-11-2022 10:16pm

Ward very poor for the 3rd goal.

29-11-2022 10:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937199#Comment_119937199

I think his play is open to critisism but he seems to attract a lot of hate due to him picking up the huge wages Madrid where silly enough to offer him.

He took a loan to spurs and Jose never played him much and I think they blocked a move of his to china at one stage also.

fyfe79 · 29-11-2022 10:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937247#Comment_119937247

And the first. He's a poor keeper. If you find yourself 2nd choice behind Wayne Hennessy it should make you reconsider your life choices. Still, he's earning way, way, way more than me per week so I'm sure he's fine with life!

breezy1985 · 29-11-2022 10:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937228#Comment_119937228

Ronaldo "won" a lot more Champions Leagues for Real than Bale did and a Euros too.

They both acted the bollix with clubs.

29-11-2022 10:21pm

Whoever decided on the music for the rte player break thing, deserves a stint in guantanamo

breezy1985 · 29-11-2022 10:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937250#Comment_119937250

Most players who sit on the bench and take the money get stick. I would say he has a lot more defenders than many similar players despite it.

CalamariFritti · 29-11-2022 10:22pm

I would agree that Bale hasn't really looked hungry and had not 'burned himself out' for a number of years..

Seemed happy enough to sit on the bench and play golf in Madrid and like @breezy1985 said he was making jokes about it on twitter. This went on for a while...

Then he showed up briefly at Spurs and wasnt doing too much there either. I don't know even weher he went after that. Is he playing MLS now?

He certainly didnt look top form whatsoever physically and his touch was off from the start today. Ramsey looked 'past it' too.

29-11-2022 10:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937271#Comment_119937271

I mean look at this thread lots giving out about him doing that, he was perfectly entitled to that money and do what he did. I'm not sure its worth critisism myself

I was deffo critical of his effort to night but maybe he was carrying an Injury if he came off at half time.

A lot of this has to fall on the Wales manager he left a lot of energy and decent players on the bench. And you can't carry two players with no legs it was up to him to make that call

They also lacked any sort of a game plan even long balls up to Moore with the pace of Johnson and James would have been something.

Drumpot · 29-11-2022 10:44pm

Reports that Ronaldo is looking to claim Rashfords second goal

breezy1985 · 29-11-2022 10:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937326#Comment_119937326

Is perfectly entitled to take the money but as people are pointing out it's a big factor in why a player of 33 looks completely finished.

~Rebel~ · 29-11-2022 10:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937270#Comment_119937270

That bloody tune gurgles and grinds around in my head for hours after a match!

29-11-2022 10:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937418#Comment_119937418

It's impossible to say really, we see players play untill they are late thirties at a high level and we see players finished at the top level in there mid 20s.

Is it injures or a lack of hunger some combination of both more likely.

Overall I think Wales were more let down by a manger who wasnt brave enough drop both or smart enough to find another solution then just getting them in the team and hoping they create some magic

29-11-2022 10:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937440#Comment_119937440

It's so bad like, if the aim is to get me to close the player or silence it to miss the adds well mission accomplished, :)

DJIMI TRARORE · 29-11-2022 11:04pm

Bale has been injured since he went to the USA,I think he's took part in 5/6 games altogether so he couldn't possibly be fit,funny how he was capable of starting 3 games in 8 days !!!

29-11-2022 11:05pm

I would love to see Brazil win it and see Dani Alves get the clean swept of every single major trophy a player can win for club and country and take his total of major titles to 42 and he wasn't just a squad player a long for the ride with club or country.

breezy1985 · 29-11-2022 11:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937484#Comment_119937484

He is the reverse Roy Keane 🤣

Loafing Oaf · 29-11-2022 11:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937149#Comment_119937149

Their achievement was qualifying. Bale, Ramsay and Alen were clearly past their best coming into the tournament. IMO 'disgraced themselves' is harsh and I doubt there's much recriminations in Wales tonight...

FatherTed · 30-11-2022 2:17am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119937484#Comment_119937484

Correct, he didn't even start in the MLS Cup Final for LAFC, he came on late and scored the winner in injury time. He should have been a sub for Wales too at this WC.

Loafing Oaf · 30-11-2022 3:07pm

Wow that's definitely a second string French side for the Tunisia game, Have only heard of about half them...

gucci · 30-11-2022 3:40pm

Up until yesterday (at work) I could very easily listen to BBC radio 5 live for live commentary of matches. Yesterday it came up with a message to say due to rights reasons, can no longer listen to it. Tried phone also and same message.

Is it same for everyone else? Any readily available radio commentary online? I could "listen" to rte tv coverage, but its not really ideal.

gimli2112 · 30-11-2022 3:41pm

Watching SSN and listening to Redknapp and Seaman very confident that despite the fact they'll respect Senegal they're much better than them and are already looking past them.

Mr.Nice Guy · 30-11-2022 3:42pm

I'm surprised Tchouameni didn't get a rest as he could probably do with it more than most. It's a talented French side but might be a bit disjointed due to all the changes. I fancy Denmark to beat the Aussies. I'll say a 1-0 Denmark win, and 1-1 in the other game.

DJIMI TRARORE · 30-11-2022 4:11pm

France looking like a team put together at short notice, could possibly still win comfortable enough, Denmark will be too cute for Oz

Xander10 · 30-11-2022 4:26pm

Zero atmosphere or intensity in the Australia v Denmark game. You'd think they were both out of contention

Deeper Blue · 30-11-2022 4:29pm

Maybe it's because we've played them so many times but I never have any interest in watching Denmark at a major tournament. They do absolutely nothing for me. Hope the Aussies go through.

30-11-2022 4:31pm

The danes are all over the aussies playing some nice football created some great opportunities with out any great chances, a few times the ball just didnt drop to them in the box, much more likely to score though.

Aussies time wasting from the start pretty much

30-11-2022 4:41pm

Danes not so great the last 10 rushing everything and making silly errors,

Xander10 · 30-11-2022 4:45pm

Tunisia could sneak through with a win if the other game ends in stalemate

Jarhead_Tendler · 30-11-2022 4:47pm

I've watched better games down the park than this Denmark v Australia game. Surprised Denmark have been so poor.

yerwanthere123 · 30-11-2022 4:49pm

Think this has been a dour enough match so far.

I've been surprised with Denmark this tournament, I thought we'd see a lot more from them. They showed a bit of life when they went down 1-0 to France, but that aside, I think they've been pretty poor.

Mr.Nice Guy · 30-11-2022 4:51pm

France like a collection of individuals versus a team. Deschamps understandably not happy. Konate probably the only one emerging with any credit from that half.

fyfe79 · 30-11-2022 4:58pm

The Aussies will be raging if they get a point here but go out if Tunisia beat France's second team, while they had to contend with France's first XI instead. Luck of the draw I guess.

World Cup 2022 - Team and Match Discussion

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