Dangerous Dogs Owners

Expect a slap on the wrist...

There is a clear issue when it comes to enforcement when it comes to restricted dog breeds in Ireland.

How many have licenses for their dogs?

How many walk on leash and with a muzzle?

How many dogs walking about with mutilated ears despite it not being legal?

Spaniels are a breed that can have the inherited Idiopathic Rage Syndrome, which causes uncontrolled and unprovoked aggression. It's a genetic, uncurable condition that causes a fit like state in the dog that then turns on whoever and whatever is around it. When the dog snaps out of it, it doesn't have any idea what just happened.

Labradors actually have a considerably high bite rate, due to how common they are, how woefully unprepared people tend to be for their energy level, and how often people let their children poke and annoy them thinking the dog should put up with it as it's a Lab.

It doesnt matter how well you train the owner or dog, even the most well treated pitbulls have been involved in attacks on people. The breed is genetically too aggressive and dangerous to be kept as a household pet.

Cockers may be unpredictable, but they are not (commonly at least) killers.

And Labradors are certainly not just as likely to bite as other dogs - unless the other dogs are also Labradors.

Pit Bull terriers were responsible for 3,997 attacks and 295 deaths in the US in 2021 - that's over 60% of all fatalities.

None of the dog types that might be included under the broad pit-bull heading makes it into the top 50 popular breeds in the US.

Most Popular Dog Breeds of 2021 – American Kennel Club (akc.org)

These facts are well known. The reputation and unpredictability of that breed is well known.

People who own these dogs know (and I suspect enjoy) the fact that they are walking around with the canine equivalent of a loaded shotgun.

I don't know if I'm just more aware of them but I am seeing a lot more of these pitbull type dogs around lately. I love dogs and I do believe a dangerous dog is more to do with the owner but these breeds are literally lethal. Personally, I think they should be banned completely. That poor kid is lucky to be alive, as it is he will have to live with the impact of this for the rest of his life.

But you keep claiming that all breeds are as dangerous (or not) as each other. Why would you be in favour of singling out some breeds for special licencing requirement? They are either more dangerous than other breeds, or they're not.

And why should only the owners of some breeds be liable for the damage done by their dog? Surely that should be the standard across the board, with no need to sign anything. The dog is the owner's responsibility at all times.

I had a biology teacher in school that used to tell us in all earnestness that if you got attacked by a shark, you draw a line across its head from eye to eye, and from the tip of its nose to its tail, and at the point where the lines intersect, you simply plunger your finger into a weak point in their skull into their brain, killing the shark instantly.

I'd say sticking your arm down a dog's throat or picking it up in the air mid-maul to choke it ranks up there with that advice in terms of practicality.

I was responding to the assertion in the post I quoted.

Yeah like I'm sure you could train yourself to do it but it would involve fighting with a dog regularly, not very fair on the dog or enjoyable for you. But to ask someone to do something they haven't repeated in a training environment ad nauseum, while in a state of panic or fear, well it's just not going to work.

It's not like they are native wild animals, we breed them selectively, ending a breed is not some crime against nature, in fact it's possibly the opposite. Thats not to advocate culling, just the end of breeding.

Your post is a load of whataboutist twaddle

Do chihuahuas deliver many fatal bites? Pugs? Poodles?

For anyone doubting how dangerous pitbulls really are in comparison to other dogs, here is a list of fatal dog attacks in the US for the last 3 years

Look at how many of those attacks were by a pitbull or pitbull mix. It is astounding. Banning those dogs alone would reduce dog attacks and fatal attacks immensely.

This website estimates 20% of US dogs are pits or pit-mixes, which is likely overestimating it. Even so, at 20% of US dogs they are responsible for at least 65% of deaths by dog attack in the US. Massively overrepresented, because they are a dangerous breed.

No I didn't, you're reading something I didn't say or write.

Could you answer the questions I asked?

Why would you breed a dog with fighting instincts, and then try to train those instincts out? With the intention of killing the dog if it's training doesn't work...

Isn't that unethical?

Ah away and get a life. This sh#te talk makes me so mad.

Our beautiful RR of 13 years 10 months passed away last month. The sense of loss and sadness in our family is terrible. Then somebody like you comes on demonising all breeds on the restricted dogs list. I wouldn't swap a bone in our late Cody's body for all of the hand wringing do gooders of this forum.