solve the housing problem easily...some solutions?

Any "small amount" is non-zero, so point proved tbh. ;) Anecdotal of course, but I know where people paid the tenant to leave. Or another was threatened basically.

I don't want to get into any of those situations, or the additional risk of damage, so I won't let it out. There's nothing in it for me. By the time you pay the tax , fees, maintenance and agent, there's shag all left over, so it's not worth the risk. Makes far more sense to leave it vacant.

That's the way the system is set up.

The experience with letting property I have seen with my mother having a share in the farm buildings where she grew up would put anybody off renting out their property. The farm house is now derelict for a number of years with the last tenants being very confrontational with my uncle and trying to pick a fight rather than just paying their rent before eventually leaving. The house has since been poorly maintained and it would likely be cheaper to knock it and build again rather than renovate to bring it up to modern living standards.

One of the farm sheds which was just a small building with as far as I know low rent was used by someone who claimed a verbal agreement had been made with my deceased granda and they simply refused to leave and just used it as somewhere to dump broken windscreens. It led to a payment of about 20,000euro to the guy doing the dumping for him to agree to leave plus legal fees for my mother's family that ran into the thousands. Maybe it's a hangover to the foundation of the state being supported by so many tenant farmers but property law seems very complex here and I know of a number of properties that simply can't reach the housing market because of issues related to ownership taking so long to resolve.

As expected. I think everyone would take you and your chum more seriously if you just answered the question.

If I had a property that might make me 12k (if the tenants feel like paying), or might make me zero (if they don't), and I knew that I would need it again in 12/18 months - then I would take the option that is least likely to see me in court or a board arguing to get it back.

Especially when inflation is high.

Absolutely AirBnb.

No protection for landlords in this country.

Look up the SF one was in the Sunday Info last Sunday week. Very interesting considering the way they carry on down here.

Very few people buy a property to board it up straight away neither a publican or a LL. What has happened is that you have individuals who were LL's for years that have walked away. The real problem is you have people where a property may be vacant for 1-3 maybe even for 5-10 years ( owner in a nursing home) who will not rent or lease there houses because they are scared sh!tless by the rules and regulations or by the inability to resolve issues with a problem tenant.

By the way Donald it was you who said that @notAMember was on planet waffle when you were and still are the waffler in chief better know as Dwic

I have explained this to you before. Generally people who hold onto property and do not rent it have a valid reason to. Maybe they want it for a son or daughter who is away or is a few years from needing it.

However even though it has coincided with the rise in property prices it is rising exponentially, the thinking first it was accidental LL's but it's also owner of multiple properties.

DT is of the opinion that all these houses will end up with owner occupiers, however occupancies rates decline when going from rented to owner occupied.

But people do not need to leave them empty. They can rent short-term fir 90 days and receive less ROI. Some sell up. Some intend to hold onto for a child who may be travelling or still in there teens. Selling may trigger a serious CAT event.

Just on trying to terminate there is a case gone to.the Supreme Court where throughout the system the courts have upheld the LL's right to evict but he cannot get possession as the tenant has kept appealing. There has been no rent received for about 3-4 years. Yes an outlier but it's a possibility

Your disdain is more based on personal begrudgery, rather than any true empathy towards those affected by the lack of rental properties.

I'm not a landlord by the way, I just don't have an issue with people being smart with their personal property and using it intelligently.

Very true. The problem however is vested interests arguing against an increase in supply. For example, the Irish Property Owners Association representing amateur landlords was arguing as late as January of this year that there was a severe danger of supply in the rental market if there was too much investment in housing in Ireland.

DT you are getting very techy about the SF example in NI.

Most of the rest of your post is well dare I say it just...... waffling....as I say Dwic.

I am quite well able to manage any assets I have properties or other investments.

However the problem in this country is LL's running for the hills......or they were until the government decided to bring in the winter rental termination ban. How the government get themselves out of this mess I am not sure because as Gerry Adams said they have not gone away or in this case the problem will not have go e away.

Imagine all those houses for sale for owner occupiers.

So how do you try to solve it. More stick that has not worked for the last six years,( as the shinnors know and are afraid it might happen in NI after helping to create the mess here by there populism policies) or try to incentive ( by not frightening them.sh!tless) those that have properties that are vacant for a couple years to rent them.

You and @[Deleted User] are the BDSM specialists of the rental sector and we see where that has lead

Landlords often present themselves as being the solution to the problem but I think they often forget that when a landlord buys a property, often to provide very insecure accommodation to a tenant, they are blocking that house from being bought by a first time buyer or someone trading up. When they sell that house becomes once again, a purchasable home for a family. I'm a supporter of landlords in general but the situation is not as clear-cut as they themselves make out.