Dangerous Dogs Owners

So they don't have Pitbulls anymore so they get a Cane Corso or Dogo Argentino instead so we ban those so then they get a Dogue de Bordeaux or a Boerboel, all dogs that can do as much damage as a Pitbull...where does it stop?? It stops when there are consequences to the people and not just the animal.

The independent and RTE are reporting this dog attacked another child a few days before. What happened with that? Were the garda involved. I don't think we take dangerous dogs and attacks from dogs seriously enough in Ireland.

While I agree with getting a dog from a charity, Dog Charities have a lot to answer for. For example during the lockdown there was numerous articles in the papers with quotes from the likes of Dogs Trust saying how great owning a dog is if you're on your own or need something to get you out etc. They went to the Charities and those Charities that had some cop on didn't give unsuitable people dogs. But that also lead to people going to puppy farms and dog owners that saw an opportunity to make money from their own unneutered animals.

Now the same Charites are complaining about being unindicted with lockdown dogs that are now being handed in because they were not as advertised, that they require a lot of time and training. Many of these dogs are not trained and suffer with separation anxiety. Those same dogs are getting rehomed now, probably only to be handed back to given to another charity.

No charity should be rehoming restricted breeds either.

Most sensible comment so far.

What about people who attack dogs, who beat the shít out of them and sometimes kill them? What do they deserve?

But so many people are of no benefit to society.

Approx 400,000 people are murdered every year. That's an awful lot of murderers. Should people be banned?

No good reason to keep any breed alive, they are human creations after all. Especially ones bred for fighting or freakish ones bred for looks that have difficulty breathing.

Can someone explain why you would want to have that type of dog that is on the dangerous dogs list as a pet? I just don't get why people would risk bringing one into their house endangering all in it but also to endanger everyone else in the neighbourhood.

There was a good write up in 2016 on restricted breeds in Ireland. People can read it here

https://www.thejournal.ie/factcheck-thejournal-ie-dangerous-dogs-restricted-breeds-2775130-May2016/

From the article:

The third and final reference to it was in a study which found that a Rhodesian Ridgeback had been involved in one fatality in the 20-year period between 1979 and 1998 in the US – far fewer than non-restricted breeds like the collie, Labrador retriever, and Saint Bernard.

As for Breed specific legislation, it has been shown to have no effect on number of bites or injuries caused by dogs.

Good write up here

https://www.aspcapro.org/resource/are-breed-specific-laws-effective

In my opinion, banning or restricting certain breeds will do fook all. It's all in the article. There is lot of publications related to BSL and research done to show it has no effect. At some point Italy had whooping 60 breeds on restricted breeds list. Absolute nonsense, impossible to control.

The thing about those stats, is how many collies, labradors and saint bernards are there in the US compare to RRs? When measuring attacks you need to look at attacks per capita - thats the stat that matters when determine what breeds are more dangerous than others.

I know, but it's still only one fatality..

As for per capita numbers, think I've already posted stats earlier on the thread.

There’s no point is showing stats that the likes of pit bulls bite less often than say a Jack Russell. If one those attacks a good kick would get rid of it, try doing that with a pit bull

While I generally don't recommend Facebook there is a Rhodesian Ridgeback Ireland Facebook group which you might want to join.

My friend was utterly heartbroken when hers died. She was asking on that group and adopted a 1.5 year old. The family that owned it didn't realise what they were getting in to when they originally got it and have small kids. When it started getting big they realised they would have to give it up for adoption and it now has a happy home with someone who knows how to handle it.

Again, not a person.

Let it get away to do more damage elsewhere? Your own farm or someone else's?

Presumably you're going to attempt to remove the dog unharmed first and identify it's owner and if it does have to be shot you'll be informing the nearest Garda station within 48 hours, both of which you're obliged to do.

Not sure what’s your point, we obviously can’t ban all dogs but my point was banning dogs that are dangerous to most people. If that poor 9 year old was attacked by a Jack Russell he wouldn’t be in hospital now

Who and how is gonna decide what dog breeds are dangerous to most people?

There should be the same legislation applying across ALL breeds, doesn't matter the size. Proper enforcement of rules which are already in place. Proper education around the dogs. And all dog owners have to be made responsible for actions of their dogs.

" A better solution to dog bite prevention

Animal control and legislative approaches to protecting a community from dangerous dogs should not be based on breed, but instead on promoting responsible pet ownership and developing methods to rapidly identify and respond to owners whose dogs present an actual risk.

The AVMA recommends the following strategies for dog bite prevention:

Enforcement of generic, non-breed-specific dangerous dog laws, with an emphasis on chronically irresponsible owners

Enforcement of animal control ordinances such as leash laws, by trained animal care and control officers

Prohibition of dog fighting

Encouraging neutering for dogs not intended for breeding

School-based and adult education programs that teach pet selection strategies, pet care and responsibility, and bite prevention"

Source: https://www.avma.org/resources/pet-owners/why-breed-specific-legislation-not-answer