Reflection on the pandemic: questions about the authorities' response.

Sure lads, we can't even trust what comes out of everyone's favourite veterinarian's mouth:

You won't know.

Great. But the bones of that article is from the EU and the Digital Services Act. Its not an opinion piece.

The misreporting was by the poster who referred to the article.

Anyone who thinks the Covid vaccines don't work is a Conspiracy theorist. After 2 years of repeated demonstrations of effectiveness there is no argument that they are effective.

The one area where the Irish authorities excelled was the vaccine rollout.

I think the reason the poster questioned if you had "puppet master" was probably because they find you constant posts denying a life saving treatment to be baffling. A treatment that is only available due to the advances in modern medicine.

The vaccines are effective at protecting against death and serious illness. That's the basis they were approved on. So that's my definition.

When the Pfizer vaccine was approved it was on the promise that it was 95% effective against death and serious illness for the strains at the time. In the last 2 years or so this has basically been shown.

The idea that vaccines have to stop Covid completely is a strawman. Can you find people in the media who were hyperbolic about Covid yes but you need to look at what was actually promised by the scientists.

Anti vaxxers have turned the hyperbole into a strawman to pretend vaccines don't work. This can be seen in countless threads in this forum.

If you want to know how effective vaccines are particularly RNA vaccines, look at China. One of the reasons it's afraid to abandon its 0 Covid strategy(a strategy I think everyone would agree is not sustainable long term) is that's it's failed to sufficiently vaccinate its population and especially people who are at high risk of serious complications from Covid 19.

Anyone denying that Covid 19 vaccines are effective is a science deniers/conspiracy theorist. At this stage denying that Covid 19 vaccines work is getting into the territory of thinking that the earth is flat.

Your post is a classic strawman. Case numbers have nothing to do with the predicted vaccine effectiveness.

As restrictions eased you would expect case numbers to increase however the number of people in hospital and particularly ICU did not increase in line with in the increase in cases. This was due to mass vaccination. Hong Kong is a classic case study of how much damage Covid can do to even partially vaccinated populations

It has been repeatedly shown is that vaccinated individuals are many many times less likely to suffer complications from Covid that requires medical assistance or result in death. That's a statement of Scientific fact.

The rest of your post is just scare mongering. If you really had evidence of how dangerous vaccines are you wouldn't be posting in on Boards.ie you'd be posting it in a reputable scientific journal. But let me guess you won't/other people with evidence won't because they think the entire field of medicine is part of some global conspiracy.

Most people are rational and understand that treatment has limitations depending on a whole bunch of things. For example, we have flu jabs every year because that virus mutates a lot. We don't have smallpox jabs every year, because that virus is different, one shot works.

As we've discovered, Covid is more like the former. The vaccines we currently have for Covid are safe and effective. That doesn't mean perfectly, absolutely 1000% safe in every single situation, it means relatively very safe. Huge attention is paid to safety for vaccines, and with these ones, which were administered to billions, every effort was naturally made (constraints considered) to keep them as safe as humanly possible.

You're a vaccine regulator, you know your family, relatives, friends, colleagues will be taking this treatment - I shouldn't need to finish that sentence.

Effective means effective. If the best our technology could achieve were Covid vaccines that did nothing but reduce deaths by 30% from the virus, then they could still be called effective and probably would have been rolled out everywhere (if that was the best achievable vs the virus). The current crop performed very well in trials against earlier variants (which they were designed for), however as the virus has evolved and mutated, that has led to varying results. Still very good overall, they reduce transmission, reduce infection and reduce serious hospitalization and deaths from the virus (by up to 90% from the virus)

A new mutation could come out tomorrow that the vaccines could be much less ineffectual against. A much more deadly strain could develop.

All we can do is respond as best we can. At the moment, despite initial high hopes, it looks like we just have to live with Covid like we have to deal with seasonal flu, thankfully we have created safe and effective vaccines that do reduce transmission somewhat and significantly reduced severity of the disease, no doubt saving millions and millions of lives. Perhaps down the road we'll develop better treatments.

Multiple times now posters have provided you with evidence of the effectiveness of vaccines versus severe covid. And for earlier variants v infection.

I linked qatar study in direct reply to your earlier post which demonstrates their effectiveness v severe covid even v Omicron. You ran away from the evidence.

You have entirely failed to engage with the evidence provided to you.

You continue to post medical disinformation about the vaccines being obsolete which is entirely without foundation or merit.

Do you think posters dont notice such blatant attempts at evasion?

There is no data showing a link between vaccines and excess deaths. I dont know what that link is meant to prove but it does not show that. Provide the exact quote in the study which supports your position.

Or have you misrepresented its contents in an attempt to deceive?

Your posts are exercises in scurrilous anti vax propaganda.

This is an utterly false misrepresentation of the contents of the article.

Find us the exact quote in the article which states that is it nearly 80% of the cases studied.