Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny

I'm approaching this film with very cautious optimism. I hate to treat Spielberg as a liability but he certainly was for Crystal Skull, as was Lucas. The fact that neither are involved in the major creative roles gives me optimism for fresh talent making a good film, and Mangold has had a few decent hits behind him.

I'm actually most worried about Indy dying at the end of the film. I know the hero dying worked very well in Logan and Endgame, but I'm kinda sick and tired now of seeing childhood favourite characters dying in newer movies.

uh huh

looks like the time travel is locked in, the name of the film and the plane looks like its going- into a time vortex. The name is bad, sounds the title to a parody film

I won't judge the CGI until the movie is released. They still have about 7 months to finish / improve it.

The dialogue doesnt sound great " i dont believe in magic" from a guy who once saved his life by keeping his eyes closed so angels wouldnt melt his head. or the its not what you believe but how hard you do, seriously cringe, even fleabag's line indicates she is going to be annoying.

he is probably correct, hes lucky disney dont have a history of disrespecting IP characters

Christ, that cover is like some parody/as-if prop from an '80's or 90's film. Just a long list of overextended franchise instalments over a picture of a movie star in their iconic role but clearly far past it. Its like the Jaws 19 joke in BTTF2 or similar references elsewhere to Rocky <insert long roman numeral here> but this is a real magazine cover in 2022.

Trailer does look good.

Am I alone in thinking that while the de-aging looks great, but that bit where Indy is on the horse looks bad? The bit where the horse buckles up at 55 seconds in. Look at his face.

Of course I'd like to be proved wrong, but it looks pretty terrible.

ultimately this is just more "product" based on intellectual "property" bought for a vast sum of money, and made by committee; same as all the recent Star Wars "product". The original films were born out of love for the old movie serials and featured producer, director and lead actor all at the top of their game. It might not be terrible, but it won't come anywhere near those 3 films.

Strictly speaking Indy didn't see what happened to the Nazi's in the first film, did he? He'd have no idea it was angels or whatever. All he'd know is the Nazi's all died.

Even then the line 'I don't believe in magic' can still make sense though we'd have to see the full context. Plenty of people have deep faith in Christianity/spiritualism but don't believe in magic.

e.g., if Indys line is in reply to someone saying that an event can't possibly be otherworldy but must be a magic trick then Indy's 'I don't believe in magic' is a perfectly fine answer based on what he has witnessed previously.

Hmmmm. Could also say 'he made a prayer to some Hindu god and it caused the sacred stone to become hot etc....'.

I still think that would make the 'don't believe in magic' line perfectly consistent, but I guess it depends on where we stand on religion and magic. Clearly in the Indy universe a powerful God force does exist (generally approximating to Christianity) but proof has only been witnessed by Indy and a few others, and there is also some truth in the Buddhist/Hindu teachings.

The "I don't believe in magic" line is just stupid on face value. Let's be honest about it. However, if it's Uri Geller or David Copperfield type "magic", then that's a different matter.

A scoop by the looks of it, John Williams let slip that "there is a new ending to shoot and record in a couple of weeks" 5:50 , maybe all the endings leaks were spot on

In a Monty Python movie that would be fine.

Not that Indiana Jones should be as po faced as Tarkovsky or anything. But I have my limits...and Crusade over stepped them on too many occasions. To the point where it just became stupid, which is often a departure from "funny".

And no, neither Spielberg or Lucas are very good comedians that's for sure. They're waaaay too try hard and they fail nearly every time.

Peter Jackson suffers from the same problem as well.

Oh absolutely. There are moments in his Rings movies that are just awfully flat.

the story seems to have entered the food chain, will be interesting to see the story bubble up, by implication it means Mangold has been caught in a lie.