The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

paulie21 · 10-10-2022 4:13pm

Matt Rhule fired by the Panthers

eagle eye · 13-10-2022 1:51am

Suprised it hasn't been mentioned here yet but Devante Adams has been charged with misdemeanor assault by police in Kansas for pushing the ESPN photographer.

Jofspring · 13-10-2022 8:11am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737401#Comment_119737401

Scandalous from what I saw. The idiot cameraman decides to run across the tunnel as players are exiting the field. Adams just reacted to what came in his path. Fair enough he could have helped him up but the blame should be on the cameraman in my opinion as he caused the incident.

Christy42 · 13-10-2022 9:11am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737664#Comment_119737664

Don't push people because they run in front of view. Happens all the time in everyday life and no one has to push anyone.

They are going through the motions because it is the US and the camera man needs to cover himself in case an injury is found later that could bankrupt him. He will get a small pay out. Adams will get a fine and probably a 1 game suspension which seems fair to me.

Itssoeasy · 17-10-2022 8:31pm

https://twitter.com/nflonfox/status/1582091188206592000?s=61&t=IyXK9sRT9YIr9zIKg4-WUg

So Nashville will hosting a super bowl at some point then.

paulie21 · 17-10-2022 8:38pm

Cardinals have traded for Robby Anderson

eagle eye · 18-10-2022 4:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757803#Comment_119757803

Brown looks like he's done for the season and Hopkins back next week. I don't know what happened to Robbie in Carolina but the QB standard has been awful there I suppose. Mightn't be much better in Arizona but this gives Murray a different look with two big, athletic receivers to throw to.

mikemac2 · 20-10-2022 5:02pm

I read today Josh Gordon was cut from the Titans practice squad

I had forgotten he was even in the league! Was such a talented player but seems a long time ago now

NFL films will make a great documentary about him one day

eagle eye · 20-10-2022 8:48pm

A very sad case. Between recreational drugs and Peds he was always in bother and he had so much talent. He could have been one of the best in the league.

Shedite27 · 21-10-2022 9:16am

CMC to the 49ers

Christy42 · 21-10-2022 10:00am

Injury prone player to injury prone team. Seems likely where this will end. However for the games he is around he will be nuts with Shanahan. Especially if he manages to be around for some play off games and gives the 49ers some firepower for bigger games that avoids needing to rely on Jimmy in play off games which is normally when they fall apart.

eagle eye · 21-10-2022 12:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119773961#Comment_119773961

I had the very same thoughts.

He's a great player but has had a lot of injuries in recent times.

When you look at the niners in recent times they had so many injuries to lead backs. It's how the likes of Hyde, Breida, Mostert, Mitchell and Wilson got opportunities.

It's hard to remember who the lead backs were that got injured but I remember McKinnon, Coleman I think, Mostert after his breakout year and then Mitchell this year after his breakout year.

I love watching Deebo but I'm just waiting for him to go down playing in that backfield.

McCaffrey is lightning in a bottle if he stays healthy the niners will be seriously strong.

Foxtrol · 21-10-2022 2:59pm

Risky but great move for the 49ers that I'm delighted with. Another incredibly versatile piece to go along with Deebo, Kittle, Juice - McCaffrey is probably the most consistent duel threat RB since he's been drafted, all while playing for a poor team most of the time and far from great offensive coaches. Would not want to be a defense trying to work out what is going on with that group as they motion all over the place.

Back since they picked up McKinnon Kyle has clearly wanted a player like him and with how the running game has fallen off since the Lance injury this should provide a reset and also open up the RB screen game that should help Jimmy, that is basically been nonexistent with the RBs they have.

Injury concerns are obviously there but he was never injured prior to the previous two seasons and those havent really been connected and pretty random. He should have a good bit less of a workload with them too, rather than being the focal point that he was with the Panthers. Obviously fearful of the terrible injury curse the team has but that fear goes for basically every player in every moment of every game so I'm a bit numb to it.

On the cost, I saw on social media some claim they practically have given up their whole draft in 2023 with the trades for Lance and now this but that is ignoring the buckets of comp picks that are coming through. Post this trade the 9ers will likely still have 9 picks, including still two third rounders, and will get another third rounder on if Ryans gets a HC job, which seems pretty likely. The team already has a stacked roster with very few starters at risk to be losing in FA so I'd rather convert picks into a known superstar than go into the draft with 12 or 13 picks. This is far from a steal but presuming the 49ers make a decent run in the playoffs it'll likely end up valuing around a high 2nd which is fine. Salary wise, Panthers are also paying a huge chunk of it, with him practically being free this year and lower end of top RB money for the next 3 years, with nothing guaranteed.

All in all, I'm far, far happier to pay what they did than the alternative of going to bed last night finding out the Rams had traded for him in a similar deal. NFC is absolutely wide open, with no top tier teams yet, it is the exact time to be aggressive. I don't like spending much on RBs, in the draft or FA, but he is so much more than that.

paulie21 · 26-10-2022 9:13pm

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1585360751476494336?t=ZYxWtPIXE08FIfN-Qgtqxg&s=19

Trade

KrustyUCC · 26-10-2022 10:27pm

Jeez the Eagles got a steal

Only giving up a 4th is mad

Definite favourites in NFC

eagle eye · 27-10-2022 3:35am

He's 32 and has two expensive years to come on his contract in '23 and '24 and it's pretty much all guaranteed money.

I think a fourth is about right.

It's a great pick up for the Eagles though. Gotta be favourites to win the NFC.

boccy23 · 27-10-2022 8:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119798471#Comment_119798471

Next two years are non guaranteed, so no real risk. Bears are paying $7M this year. So Howie is schooling the NFL again.

eagle eye · 27-10-2022 9:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119798650#Comment_119798650

If that's the case it's an awesome deal.fir the Eagles. I thought he restructured a year ago and money in at least one of '23 and '24 became guaranteed?

boccy23 · 27-10-2022 9:54am

From CBS:

Per NFL Media, the Bears are paying $7.1 million of Quinn's remaining base salary this season. He has two years remaining on his five-year, $70 million deal, and Philly takes over non-guaranteed base salaries of $14M in 2023 and $13M in 2024.

adrian522 · 27-10-2022 10:23am

The guarantees in his salary came in the form of a signing bonus, $20m, which for cap purposes is split over the life of the contract.

That was paid by the bears so they will have some dead money for 2023 and 2024 (4,237,500 per year).

Realt Dearg Sec · 27-10-2022 4:54pm

As peteed said in the Bears thread, this deal frees Chicago's cap up for next year even further than before. They currently have 125-130 million in cap space for 2023. Next highest in the league is Atlanta at 58 million. Quinn should be somewhere that he can win now, Chicago need money to invest in younger guys, and the Eagles get a very nice deal for a 4th round pick. Win-win-win.

eagle eye · 28-10-2022 5:04pm

Brady announced his divorce is finalised. He won't be right for a couple of weeks yet I'd imagine.

ArmaniJeanss · 28-10-2022 6:52pm

Mildly amused by Dan Orlovsky (in London to commentate on Broncos Jags game) struggling to watch last night's match as was booked into a hotel without Sky, and trying to figure out the vagaries of Prime & VPNs.

Dan Orlovsky on Twitter: "Anyone with a bigger brain than I know how I can watch #TNFonPrime while in London?" / Twitter

AbusesToilets · 28-10-2022 10:56pm

https://twitter.com/evan_winteratoz/status/1586068629572968449?s=46&t=sVxatictvcs7fqmMhHAVXA

This man has to be trolling.

paulie21 · 31-10-2022 8:42pm

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1587165275891318789?t=ATTkQBH3fTnrnG6_B0ddUg&s=19

Bears rebuild continues

eagle eye · 31-10-2022 8:48pm

I can't believe they let Roquan Smith go. He's only 25, he's a superstar. You might be in rebuild mode but you should be holding onto a great young player.

Oat23 · 31-10-2022 9:30pm

It's bittersweet. He was unbelievable in previous seasons and the heart of that 2018 D under Fangio.

But he has been terribly inconsistent so far this year and the concerns raised in the off season that he might not be a good scheme fit seem to have been true as he has struggled despite the tackling numbers remaining high. Had an awful game yesterday again. You can't have a high paid superstar, a leader of your defense, putting in terrible performances every other week which is what it feels like we've got this season.

Based on his play through 8 games Poles was never paying him the market setting $20m+ per year he wanted back in August. It's not a position valued the same way it used to be. If those demands have not changed then I suppose trading him was the only option. I'm sure he'll get back to his best in that Ravens defense though and it's a huge pickup for them.

I don't think any of our original starting front 7 are signed beyond 2022 now. It's going to be a very different team next year.

31-10-2022 10:50pm

Ravens only paying him $575k for the rest of the season. Bears paying him the other $5mil.

eagle eye · 01-11-2022 2:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119816931#Comment_119816931

You call 83 tackles, 2.5 sacks and 2 ints inconsistent? I honestly thought he had an outside shot at DPOY this season. Imo he's been fantastic, his worst game of the season was Sunday and we now know why.

Edit: I'm in a dynasty league where you have defensive players as well as offensive players. Roquan is the highest scoring defensive player, that's all defensive players not just linebackers.

eagle eye · 01-11-2022 3:08am

Wrong thread.

01-11-2022 3:10am

You beautiful, beautiful, Browns.

Oat23 · 01-11-2022 12:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119817875#Comment_119817875

Roquan hasn't even been made 1st team AP in his career yet, which is bullsh*t, but there's no way he was going from being disrespected every year by those guys to getting DPOY this year.

As for tackles, I'm not bothered if someone tackles a RB when they've already picked up 10 yards. It's not a good stat to base opinions on. If you watch the games and not the box score you can see how poor he has been in multiple games this season. Some weeks he looks like the best LB in football and then another week he is completely invisible like he was on Sunday. He has been awful in coverage for example.

He's the WILL in Eberflus' scheme. If you want to be paid at a non-premium position the way he did you have to play lights out every week and change games. You can't have up & down performances and expect a market setting $20m per year contract. We need 2-3 WRs, a RT, possibly a LT, a 3 tech and pass rushers. All of those are far more important than a weakside LB so he was never getting the contract he wanted in Chicago.

eagle eye · 01-11-2022 5:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119818675#Comment_119818675

I've seen every Bears game this year and he's been fantastic every week except last Sunday. And it's understandable that he wasn't great on Sunday when you see what happened on Monday as I'm sure he was aware what was going on.

Oat23 · 01-11-2022 6:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119820021#Comment_119820021

First, I refuse to believe anyone who is not a Bears fan has sat through all of our games considering how bad the first 4/5 were.

Second, it's obvious didn't watch the Packers, Giants or Vikings games if you think he was fantastic. Even the most loyal Roquan Smith fan would admit he has had multiple rough games this year.

This is why you shouldn't base arguments off of PFR statistics. For example, on paper it looks like he had an okay time in the Packer game with 11 total tackles, but that doesn't mention most of them were after a 5-10 yard run or how Rodgers once again picked on him in coverage with Cobb like he does every single time the Packers play us.

Itssoeasy · 01-11-2022 7:38pm

Bradley Chubb has been traded by the broncos to the Miami dolphins for a first and a fourth next year i think and the broncos get RB chase Edmonds in return.

Shedite27 · 01-11-2022 7:57pm

Trade deadline day. always great fun to see where your fantasy players have gone to. So far....

TJ Hockensen to Detroit Lions
Irv Smith Jr to IR
Chase Claypool to Chicago Bears
Jeff Wilson and Bradley Chubb to Miami Dolphins
Chase Edmonds to Denver Broncos

Shedite27 · 01-11-2022 8:00pm

And now Calvin Ridley to the Jags

He's suspended till next year

Foxtrol · 07-11-2022 6:08pm

Reich sacked but it should have been Ballard first or else both of them. Ballard has made a mess of the roster in a way that stinks of thinking he's smarter than everyone else. Given the soft ride he gets from many in the media I presume he is very open door to many of them.

Itssoeasy · 07-11-2022 9:21pm

The colts have hired former player Jeff Saturday as their interim HC. Is someone drunk in the Colts organisation ? This is going to end in a bigger mess than it already is at this rate.

The_Honeybadger · 07-11-2022 10:25pm

https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1589694208314834946?s=46&t=3sWiBoq8qFiuCHvz6n634A

Lol

eagle eye · 08-11-2022 12:12am

Scary time for Josh Allen. If he has that injury he could be out for a long time. I have a colleague who got it six years ago and to this day he has very little power in his arm. I'm sure the medical professionals dealing with NFL players can do great things but I'm not sure it won't cost him all of next season as well as the remainder of this one.

Let's hope it's a false alarm.

Itssoeasy · 22-11-2022 7:54pm

Eric Allen, cornerback
Jared Allen, defensive end
Willie Anderson, offensive tackle
Ronde Barber, cornerback
Anquan Boldin, wide receiver
Henry Ellard, wide receiver
Jahri Evans, offensive guard
London Fletcher, linebacker
Dwight Freeney, defensive end
James Harrison, linebacker
Rodney Harrison, safety
Devin Hester, kick returner/wide receiver
Torry Holt, wide receiver
Andre Johnson, wide receiver
Albert Lewis, cornerback
Robert Mathis, defensive end/linebacker
Darrelle Revis, cornerback
Steve Smith Sr., wide receiver
Fred Taylor, running back
Joe Thomas, offensive tackle
Zach Thomas, linebacker
Hines Ward, wide receiver
DeMarcus Ware, linebacker/defensive end
Ricky Watters, running back
Reggie Wayne, wide receiver
Vince Wilfork, defensive tackle
Patrick Willis, linebacker
Darren Woodson, safety

These are the 28 modern era semi finalists for the 2023 PFHOF and damn it to try and get names out of that will be a challenge, because there’s way more than five players there that you can say “That’s a sure fire HOFer.”

castletownman · 22-11-2022 10:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119908214#Comment_119908214

What Steve Smith Sr did for an average franchise makes him a certainty for me.

Would go for Darrelle Revis as well, and personally loved Freeney and Wayne. Either Ware and Harrison making up my (completely unexpert) five. Can't see all three of Ware, Freeney and Harrison getting in at the same time though.

Realt Dearg Sec · 23-11-2022 12:17am

If Hester is overlooked again I give up entirely on the whole farcical process.

Shedite27 · 23-11-2022 11:16am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119908214#Comment_119908214

Havent' looked at the stats but snap guess from me... Two Harrisons, Joe Thomas, Revis, Freeney.

Mathis, Andre Johnson and Jared Allen close behind

eagle eye · 25-11-2022 11:58pm

That's a ridic list for HoF.

Out of them, and I'm trying to think how they think, I'd reduce the list to

Jared Allen, Ronde Barber, Dwight Freeney, James Harrison, Rodney Harrison, Andre Johnson, Darelle Revis, Steve Smith, Joe Thomas, DeMarcus Ware, Reggie Wayne and Vince Wilfork.

My second pick off the list would be Patrick Willis but they are going to penalise him for quite some time due to him retiring so young.

Joe Thomas was considered, and was, the best left tackle in football for most of his career, he's automatic. James Harrison won defensive player of the year so he's automatic I'd imagine, Jared Allen was considered out on his own for a few years and he's been waiting to get it so I think he'll get in. Revis Island was what they called Darelle's side of the field because nobody would throw there so he'll get in I think.

The last spot if I had to guess it's between Steve Smith, Vince Wilfork and Dwight Freeney.

Itssoeasy · 04-12-2022 12:05am

The rams have put Matthew Stafford on IR due to a neck injury, which means he’s out for four weeks minimum, so I doubt he’ll be back for week 18.

If that’s not admitting that the season is done for I don’t know what is.

Foxtrol · 05-12-2022 4:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119954333#Comment_119954333

With Stafford my question would be more whether he ever plays again. That injury is serious and his wife has been vocal about him taking too much abuse. They don't have much ammo to improve their team going into next season. Could see a number of Rams players and staff retire

myate · 06-12-2022 11:02am

I don't think Stafford is coming back. He's got his ring. McVay could also follow him by the sounds of it! They went all in, gave it all & got their rings. A huge long term rebuild ahead.

Shedite27 · 06-12-2022 3:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119962676#Comment_119962676

You think Stafford retires?

I think there's a chance, given it's a neck injury, but I don't think he does it just because he has the ring.

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