Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

How hard is it to stop the passport trashing? Not too hard imo, if there was a will. I posted this in another thread as a solution

The other thing I was wondering was - Is it possible that the passport trashers aren't actually trashing their pp's and are simply stuffing them down their jocks and we're too soft to say 'Right lad, get bollock naked in that room there'

Yeah, usually accelerationism is something advocated by radicals, so a problem becomes so obvious that it can't be ignored. As we all know this has been happening on a smaller scale for years, being kept just small enough that it can be easily overlooked by your average person. Whether it was intended of not, the state have become the accelerators, making the problem so big that it can't be ignored any longer. It's arguably the only positive here, as they've taken their ideology too far too quickly, and now their actions and policies are in the minds of far more people than they once were, and at the end of the day that can only work against them. Sadly we'll likely have to tolerate the clowns of SF for awhile before we see any actual recourse, as it will take a few months, maybe even years, before their voters realize that there's no change coming.

Ohh stop exaggerating, all Irish males were never classed as anything by the media! It’s never much more than a handful of wingnuts trying to further their own political agenda, it wasn’t even ‘the Left’, no more than it’s not much more than a handful of wingnuts who try to portray immigrant men as potential predators to suit their own agenda.

It’s fuelled by prejudice based stereotypes on both counts. You would’ve been dismissing the idea that Irish men were potential predators then as bullshìt, so why do you imagine it’s not any more prejudicial to try and portray immigrant men as potential predators now? You know well it is.

I get that you’re trying to point out what you see as the hypocrisy of ‘the Left’, but a handful of wingnuts are no more representative of the Left, or the media, than the mere handful of sexual predators are representative of either Irish or immigrant men.

In reality, most victims of sexual violence don’t report their attackers, because they know them -

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/most-rape-victims-don-t-report-because-they-know-the-perpetrators-1.4716030

Just to give you some perspective, there were 2,892 victims of sexual violence in just 2021 alone, the vast majority of whom there was never any articles appeared in the media -

There were 2,892 victims of sexual violence in 2021. Of this, 2,357 victims were female and 535 were male. This equates to a ratio of about four to one between females and males and this has been the case over the period since 2018.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-rcvo/recordedcrimevictims2021andsuspectedoffenders2020/recordedvictims2021/

Not at all. Find something to easily cause unecessary scaremongering and fearmongering. Drill it down to a simple term. Use it for constant messaging. Clearly a far right tactic.

Face recognition snap with boarding pass. IT'S already happening in a lot of places.

There is a definite element of "croppy lie down", those in the big houses have decided and every one else must accept.

Indeed, anyone reading discussion forums or Irish social media would be under the impression that 60% of Irish people are opposed to the country accepting.

Nobody is even denying that the Ukrainian refugee situation is putting huge pressures on accommodation and infrastructure - even the government admit it.....it's not as if people are trying to pretend that the sudden arrival of 65,000 people into the country hasn't created many difficulties and pressure points such as issues for hotels and tourism. But we're in the middle of a major European war, the first one in 80 years, and the same discussions and arguments are being played out in a considerable number of European countries right now. A situation where 8m people have been forced to leave Ukraine, most moving westwards, was always going to leave chaos in its wake.

It’s quite telling that the only defence those who advocate for uncontrolled immigration here seem to have is to label those against it as far right.

People who want to see controlled migration have legitimate concerns regarding it putting a strain on our resources. It’s strange, I always would’ve thought that wanting affordable housing for all, proper and affordable access to healthcare, classrooms and teachers not being overstretched to ensure a proper education for all, wanting to see wages improve for those at the bottom, etc. would be more left sided ideals, however having uncontrolled migration is not conducive to any of that as things stand.

Maybe those who consider themselves on the left need to think about what they’re actually fighting for these days.

There’s nothing telling about misrepresenting what people are advocating for, or what they are opposed to. Nobody has ever suggested uncontrolled immigration for a start. Immigration is controlled, and what’s being argued is that the controls which are in place aren’t strict enough, which in turn is to blame for the problems you’ve chosen to associate with what you see as uncontrolled immigration.

Immigration of it’s own isn’t putting stress or strain on resources, and there’s nothing strange about again trying to present the issues you have identified as left sided ideals and pretend that stricter limits on immigration would have any effect whatsoever on those issues. It wouldn’t, and it doesn’t.

The Left (for what exists of it in Ireland), don’t need to reconsider what they’re actually fighting for at all, they’re still fighting for the same things they always fought for, as opposed to what you imagine they’re fighting for.

Then why are we accepting Georgians

Because Georgians are applying for asylum, and some cases are considered legitimate, so they’re accepted, and some cases are not considered legitimate, and their application for asylum is denied. When IPAT makes a balls of it though, cases can drag on for months or even years in some cases -

https://www.breakingnews.ie/amp/ireland/court-quashes-tribunals-decision-to-refuse-refugee-status-to-man-who-pretended-he-was-gay-1342953.html

Agreed. It's not just Georgia either. We're receiving statistically significant numbers of Albanians, Algerians, South Africans, Zimbabweans, and Nigerians. Frankly, few if any claims, from these countries are likely to have merit.

Your second point is also well made. There is rising angst amongst the general population. Just yesterday, I had lunch with some colleagues whom I haven't seen for a while. The East Wall scenario was certainly a talking point amongst the group; these are people who have never previously discussed immigration issues. I would also be concerned about a potential rise of a genuine far right presence in Ireland. All it needs is an articulate, credible figurehead to channel some of the frustrations that are clearly starting to manifest in a more forceful manner.